# About the Randi Restriction in Geller threads **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 10, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533 "2013-03-10T05:04:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/101 "2013-03-11T21:48:02Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > If people are “making abusive attacks on you,” then report them for the moderators to address. I do. You, Marley, and Tom have a tendency to look the other way, or even take sides with my attackers. You ignore a lot of stuff that should be worth a knock-it-off. You issue a knock-it-off for stuff that should get a warning. And you issue a warning only for the most extreme stuff. And then only sometimes. This especially so when it’s Czarcasm flaming me. These threads would not turn into trainwrecks if you actually took action when the flames start. Now, once in a while I get angry, but only after being flamed repeatedly with no moderator action. And then you pounce on me. > [@](#): > > I and the other moderators have spent a great deal of time (way too much, really) reviewing your posts and discussing this matter. Our assessment is not based on what other people have said or “misstated” about your objections to Randi, but on what you yourself have posted. I have bent over backwards to remain polite and reasonable at all times. I post facts, politely, and the Randi supporters start screaming. They are not upset by my behaviour. They are upset by my facts. Look at the Geller thread. You will see that they get equally upset at the facts presented by Ianzin. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/102 "2013-03-11T21:57:48Z")
One man’s facts are another man’s allegations. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/103 "2013-03-11T22:09:03Z")
yeah, but I have cites to back up my facts. usually. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/104 "2013-03-11T22:16:13Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > You, Marley, and Tom have a tendency to look the other way, or even take sides with my attackers. Or we don’t agree with how you interpret the situation. Since you’ve been warned several times in the last few years - mostly for ignoring staff instructions - then suspended, then told not to post about Randi under any circumstance, it is perhaps time you realized that your understanding of the rules isn’t very accurate. I don’t care very much what you think you’re doing at this point. The mods are the arbiters of the rules and you need to start paying attention to how we enforce them instead of telling us what we ought to be doing. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/105 "2013-03-11T22:19:34Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > yeah, but I have cites to back up my facts. > > usually. 9/11 conspricay theorists often have cites to back up their facts as well but those cites typically don’t agree with what is being claimed. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/106 "2013-03-11T22:36:13Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > You, Marley, and Tom have a tendency to look the other way, or even take sides with my attackers. > > You ignore a lot of stuff that should be worth a knock-it-off. You issue a knock-it-off for stuff that should get a warning. And you issue a warning only for the most extreme stuff. And then only sometimes. Your views on the subject are clearly not objective. If we were really as biased against you as you seem to feel you would have been banned a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/107 "2013-03-11T22:38:55Z")
While I have never mentioned or discussed _He who must not be named_ in the past, I have to admit that it now becomes tempting. Can I name drop “Randi Voldemort” into a threat Peter Morris posts in? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/108 "2013-03-11T22:41:04Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Can I name drop “Randi Voldemort” into a threat Peter Morris posts in? 🙂 No. **Colibri** spent about two pages explaining this in various permutations. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/109 "2013-03-11T22:46:45Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > These threads would not turn into trainwrecks if you actually took action when the flames start. How about if they just took action and banned you for repeatedly violating the Randi ban? That would definitely end the trainwrecks as you seem to be the only outlier holding that candle in a windy tunnel. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/110 "2013-03-11T22:48:38Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > You, Marley, and Tom have a tendency to look the other way, or even take sides with my attackers. You can point to a personal attack that was shrugged off? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/111 "2013-03-11T22:50:57Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I do. > > You, Marley, and Tom have a tendency to look the other way, or even take sides with my attackers. > > You ignore a lot of stuff that should be worth a knock-it-off. You issue a knock-it-off for stuff that should get a warning. And you issue a warning only for the most extreme stuff. And then only sometimes. Incidentally, checking back over thread reports, I can find no reports by you accusing other people of attacking you in GQ in the last three years. (The restriction was placed on you two years ago.) So claiming I ignore reports of attacks on you is not correct. There haven’t been any reports. (I don’t receive reports from forums other than GQ.) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/112 "2013-03-12T00:40:33Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > You can point to a personal attack that was shrugged off? A few. Let’s try [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=670622), for a start. Notes. 1. I’m pretty sure I hit the report button. No reply. 2. I pointed out the insult to Marley. He refused to even look. 3. He was willing to moderate me outside his own zone, yet left moderating Princhester tothe IMHO staff. Why not give us equal treatment? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/113 "2013-03-12T00:55:22Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > A few. Let’s try [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=670622), for a start. Dude…you linked to page 1 of a 3 page thread with 176 posts. Nobody is going to read or even skim through all that to see if you have a point. Try linking to the individual posts, or at least identifying the relevant post numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/114 "2013-03-12T01:02:58Z")
[Post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15655518#post15655518) where Peter Morris accuses Marley of moderatorial inaction. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/115 "2013-03-12T01:05:28Z")
Thank you, **Inner Stickler**. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > 1. I’m pretty sure I hit the report button. No reply. If you reported the post in MPSIMS, I didn’t see it. > [@](#): > > 1. I pointed out the insult to Marley. He refused to even look. I probably told you I wasn’t going to moderate a thread in MPSIMS because I don’t moderate that forum. > [@](#): > > 1. He was willing to moderate me outside his own zone, yet left moderating Princhester tothe IMHO staff. Why not give us equal treatment? What difference does that make? I was reminding you of a straightforward rule; I left a question about the tone of an MPSIMS thread to the MPSIMS mod. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/116 "2013-03-12T01:17:29Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Dude…you linked to page 1 of a 3 page thread with 176 posts. Nobody is going to read or even skim through all that to see if you have a point. Try linking to the individual posts, or at least identifying the relevant post numbers. Posts in which I insulted PM in that thread do not exist. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/117 "2013-03-12T01:20:54Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I probably told you I wasn’t going to moderate a thread in MPSIMS because I don’t moderate that forum.. You moderated \*me \*in that forum. See, [right here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15653846#post15653846). Got the Moderating tag. See, unequal treatment right there. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/118 "2013-03-12T01:25:42Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > You moderated \*me \*in that forum. > See, [right here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15653846#post15653846). Got the Moderating tag. > > See, unequal treatment right there. What are you talking about? That post is in Great Debates, a forum **Marley** moderates. It’s not in MPSIMS as you seem to be claiming. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/119 "2013-03-12T01:25:42Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > See, unequal treatment right there. I didn’t get moderated in that thread because I did not insult you in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533/120 "2013-03-12T01:26:11Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > You moderated \*me \*in that forum. > See, [right here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15653846#post15653846). Got the Moderating tag. > > See, unequal treatment right there. That thread isn’t in MPSIMS, it’s in Great Debates. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-randi-restriction-in-geller-threads/652533.md?page=7)