# Academy Award nominations are out

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 31, 2006, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341 "2006-01-31T14:03:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/101 "2006-02-01T05:08:49Z")

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Dammit!

Can I please get a mod to fix my coding?

God, I need some caffeine.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/102 "2006-02-01T05:13:22Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> The above is in now way meant to imply I would not buy _Brokeback Mountain_ T-shirts and action figures, incidentally (especially if it came with [Johnny West like accessories](http://www.users.vance.net/grayarea/marx/jw1406johnny.html)- pup tent, bean cans, fishing poles, tire irons, beer cans, rusty trucks, and of course genuine “push the button on Ennis’s back and he spits” action.)

I see you’ve been poking around on eBay recently too. 😉

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/103 "2006-02-01T16:10:05Z")

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Personally, I can’t wait to see the dance number for _It’s Hard Out There on a Pimp_.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/104 "2006-02-01T16:27:33Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Then again, I’m pissed that Kiera Knightly got nominated

Everyone who has seen the 2005 “Pride and Prejudice” assures me this nomination is the worst acting nomination in the history of the Oscars.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/105 "2006-02-01T16:38:08Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> The above is in now way meant to imply I would not buy _Brokeback Mountain_ T-shirts and action figures, incidentally (especially if it came with [Johnny West like accessories](http://www.users.vance.net/grayarea/marx/jw1406johnny.html)- pup tent, bean cans, fishing poles, tire irons, beer cans, rusty trucks, and of course genuine “push the button on Ennis’s back and he spits” action.)

Personally if I push Ennis’ button I expect him to do more than just spit.

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/106 "2006-02-01T16:44:55Z")

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The song performances at the Academy Awards are not necessarily accompanied by dancers. About half of the time the singers perform them solo.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/107 "2006-02-01T17:08:09Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Bill O’Reilly must be sobbing into his loofah right about now. 😃

I don’t know why he would be. He’s got material a good 40 shows right there. I don’t even want to know what he’s doing with that loofah.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/108 "2006-02-01T19:14:30Z")

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We’re all beside ourselves in Memphis. _Hustle and Flow_ got two nominations–Terrance Howard for Best Actor and “Hard Out Here For a Pimp” for Best Song. This is a movie made by a director nobody had ever heard of unless you went to the 2000 Hollywood Film Festival for $3 million (producer Stephaine Allen took out a second mortgage on her house for part of the money, John Singleton paid the rest out of his pocket) that won Sundance and got its star a Best Actor nomination. It’s really a great film, and I encourage everyone to go see it. I can’t wait for the “Hard Out Here for a Pimp” performance! (The first time I heard the song was on the director’s car stereo the day after it was recorded.) But man, I hope they let Terrance Howard do it rather than Three Six Mafia, who are the big rappers in Memphis but who suck, suck, suck live.

_Walk the Line_ was also filmed here, and both of its leads were nominated, and Reece Witherspoon (from Franklin, the richest town in Tennessee) is going to win it.

My pick for Best Picture is _Good Night, and Good Luck_, but I haven’t seen _Crash_. _Brokeback Mountain_ will win, though. Hoffman deserves to win for _Capote_. I’d like to see McDormaid win for _North Country_, which is a pretty good, but not great, movie. Ang Lee will probably win Best Director, but to tell you the truth, I would like to see Clooney get it, although I will admit Lee surprised me–I’m not a big fan of his, but I liked _Brokeback Mountain_.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/109 "2006-02-01T20:34:06Z")

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> [@vibrotronica](#):
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> This is a movie made by a director nobody had ever heard of unless you went to the 2000 Hollywood Film Festival for $3 million (producer Stephaine Allen took out a second mortgage on her house for part of the money, John Singleton paid the rest out of his pocket)

John Singleton got a good return on his investment!

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/110 "2006-02-01T21:05:21Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Personally if I push Ennis’ button I expect him to do more than just spit.

A symptom of Ennis envy.

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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/111 "2006-02-01T22:28:59Z")

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Why the hate for the Keira Knightley nomination? She was fantastic in “Pride and Prejudice”. If you’ve seen it & didn’t like it, that’s fine, you’re welcome to your opinion, but if you haven’t seen it, then please wait to form your opinion.

My question for the Academy watchers in this thread: Why “Crash” and not “A History of Violence”? The L.A. setting? More well-known stars? What?

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/112 "2006-02-02T00:24:12Z")

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I think it’s a great crop of movies this year. I’ve seen all but one of the Best Picture nominees (Munich) and I liked them very much.

My pics:

1. Capote–best picture and best actor  
I just can’t say enough good things about this movie. It blew me away, moreso than any of the others.

and the rest I’d put in order like this:  
2. Brokeback  
3. Good Night and Good Luck  
4. Munich (without even seeing it)  
5. Crash–I just wasn’t terribly impressed with this one. I know the critics and Oprah loved it, but I think it was trying too hard. I’m really surprised that it got as many nominations as it did.

I think Reese will win for Walk the Line, but I think Felicity is right behind her on that.

Not sure about the rest, I just wanted to give my .02. 😃

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**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/113 "2006-02-02T00:31:06Z")

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I think they’ve moved away from dance numbers for the songs.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/114 "2006-02-02T00:38:06Z")

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> [@beckwall](#):
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> **Crash** could be a sleeper. I sat in my car and wept for 10 minutes after seeing that film. It was subtly in your face, if that’s possible. Didn’t tell us how to think, just let us know what’s really going on in LA and possibly the whole world.

Really? I thought it had all the subtlety of a shotgun blast to the face. While the performances were decent, I thought the script was godawful. The only moral I got from that is that everyone is racist 100% of the time except for the blacksmith, his daughter, and the arab shopkeeper’s daughter. They’re all perfect. Everybody else is somehow able to blame a stubbed toe, lost keys, or a shaving cut on an other races.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/115 "2006-02-02T01:17:10Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> The Oscar snub that bothers me the most was a Best Supporting Actor nod to [Michael Pena](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671567/) (I don’t know how to put a tilde over the N) in [Crash](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/), which was probably my favorite film of 2005.
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> Then again, I’m pissed that Kiera Knightly got nominated (don’t get me started on typically weak “Best Actress” or “Best Supporting Actress” fields). And I think one of the biggest snubs in recent years was [Freddie Highmore](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0383603/) for [Finding Neverland](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308644/).

Thanks for fixing that up, Dex.

Much appreciated.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/116 "2006-02-02T08:10:17Z")

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Wow, I’m shocked and disappointed to see **Crash** and **Munich** nominated for Best Picture and Best Director. I found Crash preachy and pretentious and Munich felt like it tried too hard to be an “important” movie. Those spots belonged to **Match Point** and **Syriana** , IMO, though I’m glad to see Woody Allen picked up another screenwriting nomination. I was also really hoping that David Cronenberg, Viggo Mortensen and Maria Bello would score Directing and acting nominations for **A History of Violence**.

At least I hope Clooney wins Best Supporting Actor for Syriana because he was outstanding in it. I like his chances at winning for Best Director also because actors turned director have a great track record at the Oscars (Robert Redford, Kevin Costner, Clint Eastwood and Mel Gibson have all won Best Director).

Still, there some lightweight nominees in several key categories that are disappointing as hell considering the number of quality films released last year.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/117 "2006-02-03T00:49:07Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> I think it’s a great crop of movies this year. I’ve seen all but one of the Best Picture nominees (Munich) and I liked them very much.
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> My pics:
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> 1. Capote–best picture and best actor  
> I just can’t say enough good things about this movie. It blew me away, moreso than any of the others.
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> and the rest I’d put in order like this:  
> 2. Brokeback  
> 3. Good Night and Good Luck  
> 4. Munich (without even seeing it)  
> 5. Crash–I just wasn’t terribly impressed with this one. I know the critics and Oprah loved it, but I think it was trying too hard. I’m really surprised that it got as many nominations as it did.
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> I think Reese will win for Walk the Line, but I think Felicity is right behind her on that.
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> Not sure about the rest, I just wanted to give my .02. 😃

The only one on the list above that I still have not seen is **Crash**. I can get it possibly as a free rental, and maybe that would be best, considering that I have a feeling it will be heavy-handed and fall on me like an anvil. But I will give it a chance.  
I saw **Munich** today. I don’t have a problem with it being nominated, but I really thought **Walk the Line** and **Cinderella Man** should have been on the list instead.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/118 "2006-02-03T00:55:33Z")

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:smack: D’oh! Haven’t seen **Capote** yet either, and I would like to.  
But why isn’t it in wider release by now? Going to see it would require driving to a small theatre about 15 miles away. I could, of course, but I don’t understand why it isn’t in the multiplexes yet.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/119 "2006-02-03T17:46:03Z")

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> [@Rainbowthief](#):
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> Munich felt like it tried too hard to be an “important” movie.

Should a movie about terrorists killing athetes and the quest for revenge by a government and what violence does to people have been a musical-comedy?

Of _course_ it was important, no trying too hard about it.

And if Walk The Line or, to a lesser extent, Cinderella Man had taken Munich’s place on the Best Picture list (as was expected) it would have been one of those Academy Awards oversights that people would look back on and snicker at in the future, like we do 1969 (Oliver getting a nomination for BP instead of 2001: A Space Odyssey).

I like all three films. I even think Cinderella Man is Oscar-quality (especially Crowe’s performance), but Walk The Line, while interesting, was a fairly standard biopic though with brilliant performances. It got exactly the nominations it deserves. Munich stands out far above WTL, in quality and scope.

I’m still having trouble believing the voters had such good taste and foresight in this year’s nominations. To steal from Harry Potter, the voters did what was right, rather than what was easy. I’m rooting for Brokeback Mountain all the way, but if BBM isn’t going to win, oh please let it be Munich.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-award-nominations-are-out/342341/120 "2006-02-03T18:09:50Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> Really? I thought it had all the subtlety of a shotgun blast to the face. While the performances were decent, I thought the script was godawful. The only moral I got from that is that everyone is racist 100% of the time except for the blacksmith, his daughter, and the arab shopkeeper’s daughter. They’re all perfect. Everybody else is somehow able to blame a stubbed toe, lost keys, or a shaving cut on an other races.

While I kind of liked Crash, due to the acting performances, I think, I pretty much agree with this sentiment. You forgot the crucial, “moment of understanding” that all the racists go through. Wow, never saw that coming.

[nitpick]Locksmit, not blacksmith[/nitpick]

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