# Academy Awards 2024 - 96th ceremony - Watch Along Thread

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**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [March 10, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675 "2024-03-10T18:22:35Z")\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > [@Rilchiam](#):
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> > Iron Man has a gold man! Woohoo!
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> I thought Downey had won for _Chaplin_, but I just checked; Al Pacino won Best Actor that year for _Scent of a Woman_.
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> And doesn’t that seem like a long time ago.

In retrospect (or even at the time) a bad choice. He won over Denzel for _Malcolm X,_ Downey in _Chaplin,_ and Eastwood in _Unforgiven._ Pacino got it for chewing scenery in a weak movie.

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Anyone else notice the typos?

In the screenplay categories they “typed” a few lines of dialog from each nominee over the scene in the film. For one of them (sorry, I forget which) they spelled the phrase “reined in” as “reigned in.” Twice!

Even if the original screenwriter got it wrong in the script (a possibility), someone working on a show that’s going out to hundreds of millions of people around the world should have noticed that and stopped it.

I saw 21 of the total 53 films nominated, including all of the Best Picture noms, and correctly predicted the winners of 14 out of the 23 categories. The only one of the big six I got wrong was Best Actress. I predicted Lily Gladstone.

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > So what was the official run time?
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> Started at 4pm Mingo mean time, and was done at like 740ish? I stepped out of the bar to get a shawarma near the end and it was done when I got back to the bar.

I don’t know if there is a list of run times but it feels like they have been running around 4.5 hours. They didn’t appear to be rushing the speeches but like I said they did eliminate showing all the honorary awards.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Pacino got it for chewing scenery in a weak movie.

On the other hand, Pacino did not win for Godfather II, Dog Day Afternoon, or Serpico.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> So what was the official run time?

It actually ended within a few seconds of the scheduled time, wrapping up almost exactly at 10:30 EDT.

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > Pacino got it for chewing scenery in a weak movie.
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> On the other hand, Pacino did not win for Godfather II, Dog Day Afternoon, or Serpico.

I remember the feeling at the time that is was more for his body of work than the role. Like Newman in _Color of Money._

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Anyone else notice the typos?

I wasn’t watching closely enough for typos, but I did notice the John Travolta moment as Arnold Schwarzenegger tried to wrap his accent around Yorgos Lanthimos…

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> [@commasense](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > So what was the official run time?
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> It actually ended within a few seconds of the scheduled time, wrapping up almost exactly at 10:30 EDT.

I _think_ it started a little after 4pm Pacific time, perhaps five or ten minutes after the hour.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/129 "2024-03-11T04:03:51Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Pacino got it for chewing scenery in a weak movie.

He got it for playing a blind guy. The late 80s and 90s was the era of the poor afflicted SOB, like the 1960s was the decade of the musical.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> He’s now what, 0-for-11? 0-for-12?

0 for 5. Same as Annette Bening, and with the same distribution: four Actor/Actress, one supporting. The late Peter O’Toole had eight nominations without a win, all for Best Actor, and Glenn Close has four and four, also without a win.

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> I wasn’t watching closely enough for typos, but I did notice the John Travolta moment as Arnold Schwarzenegger tried to wrap his accent around Yorgos Lanthimos…

That was Yorgos Mavropsaridis, who was nominated for editing.

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Five for acting, but seven more for producing and/or writing, for a total of 12, as @RickJay suggested.

[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0177896/awards/?ref\_=nm\_awd](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0177896/awards/?ref_=nm_awd)

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> [@Loach](#):
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> So what was the official run time?

Just about 3 hours, 20 mins. It actually ended early and started about 6 mins after 7pm.

The entire telecast was actually _shorter_ than **Killers of the Flower Moon**!

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> He’s now what, 0-for-11? 0-for-12?

> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> 0 for 5. Same as Annette Bening, and with the same distribution: four Actor/Actress, one supporting.

Covered in Post #21

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> If Bradley Cooper goes 0-3 tonight, he will have 12 nominations without a win. The leader is Greg P. Russell with 16 nominations with no wins (his win on his 17th nomination was rescinded).

4 Best Actor  
1 Best Supporting Actor  
5 Best Picture (as producer)  
1 Best Adapted Screenplay  
1 Best Original Screenplay

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Peter O’Toole was nominated 8 times over 44 years, without winning. He was awarded a lifetime achievement Oscar in 2002, and asked the Academy for more time to “win the lovely bugger outright”.

I get he wanted one for a movie but, I’d think, a lifetime achievement award would be the most prestigious of all Academy Awards. But, I’m not an actor and they might have a different opinion.

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I get he wanted one for a movie but, I’d think, a lifetime achievement award would be the most prestigious of all Academy Awards. But, I’m not an actor and they might have a different opinion.

I think somehow they “don’t count” in people’s perception because they are non-competitive. Chaplin’s _The Circus_ got pulled out of competition because the Academy was worried it would win all of the awards at the first presentation and they gave him a special Oscar instead. But even now people point out Chaplin didn’t **win** an Oscar until 1972 for _Limelight_. Hitchcock won the Thalberg Award but he felt so slighted that he never won a competative award that his entire acceptance speech was “Thank you” then as an afterthought “very much indeed.”

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Watching this, it seems a lot of performers were omitted from the Oscars’ In Memoriam. Did I blink when Raquel Welch and Burt Young came up?

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I think somehow they “don’t count” in people’s perception because they are non-competitive.

The crummy thing about that is you might have turned in the second best performance by an actor in 10-years but, if you happened to be up against the best performance in 10-years that same year you lose when you would have won almost any other time. Bad luck I guess.

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> [@Moonchild](#):
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> Watching this, it seems a lot of performers were omitted from the Oscars’ In Memoriam. Did I blink when Raquel Welch and Burt Young came up?

Here is who was mentioned. There was also a link to a complete list online.

> **[Who did the Oscars 2024 In Memoriam include? Full list of those remembered at...](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/oscars-2024-in-memoriam-list/)**
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> Here's who was remembered during the 2024 Oscars In Memoriam tribute during the Academy Awards.

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> The crummy thing about that is you might have turned in the second best performance by an actor in 10-years but, if you happened to be up against the best performance in 10-years that same year you lose when you would have won almost any other time. Bad luck I guess.

In 149 runnings of the Kentucky Derby, the second fastest time (although it may not be official) was set by Sham in 1973. That was the year that Secretariat won, and set the record that still stands.

So, yeah, sometimes you get unlucky and run into stiff competition.

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It’s neat to hear you loved Past Lives. We are friends with Teo Yoo (we know he him as Te Joon/_CHEE-hoon_) from an acting course he took with my wife in summer, 2004. It is so neat to see him “make it” as an actor. He was just a kid back then and youthfully open and funny. We laughed (during the movie) at his “broken English” – he speaks it as well as he does German or Korean. /hijack

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