# Academy Awards 2024 - 96th ceremony - Watch Along Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [March 10, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675 "2024-03-10T18:22:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/161 "2024-03-11T18:25:37Z")
She was. ---
**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/162 "2024-03-11T18:56:50Z")
I would have happily watched something like this unfold (so to speak) that what happened last night. But the Golden Globes are a more button-down affair, so the host coming out to guide Liz was probably more fitting. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/163 "2024-03-11T18:59:46Z")
I think it’s in a _they are all winners for being nominated_ sort of way (or rather, we don’t want to infer they are “losers”). The preferred phrasing is, “And the Oscar goes to…” I’m not sure how big a deal it is where it would be called “forbidden”, but I could be wrong. I think it’s just a subtle shift to make sure people know being nominated in itself is a kind of win. Truly it is. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/164 "2024-03-11T19:02:33Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > > > There was also one presenter who said the forbidden words, “And the Winner Is.” > > why is that phrasing forbidden? Because AMPAS does not want it to sound as if the other nominees are “losers.” Note that pretty much every other awards show has followed suit. I remember when Kirk and Michael Douglas presented Best Picture about 20 years ago: Michael: “And the Oscar goes to” Kirk (rather sternly) “And the winner is” ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/165 "2024-03-11T19:07:26Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > why is that phrasing forbidden? Because according to the Academy it’s not a competition so there is no winner, just a person that gets the award. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/166 "2024-03-11T19:33:33Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Not being a Truth Social reader, how accurate was that Trump post that Kimmel read? 100% verbatim. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/167 "2024-03-11T19:34:29Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Not being a Truth Social reader, how accurate was that Trump post that Kimmel read? See post 95. Was there any explanation other than nerves for the Godzilla gentleman’s remarks? I thought it was cute that they all had little monsters, and were quite excited. But his written remarks seemed to greatly exceed his English speaking ability. I wonder if he felt he was able to read them adequately when calm, in the comfort of his home… ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/168 "2024-03-11T19:49:45Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > > > Not being a Truth Social reader, how accurate was that Trump post that Kimmel read? > > 100% verbatim. Any idea what set Trump off? It didn’t seem especially political to me. There was one joke about the Republican response to the State of the Union, but other than that, not much. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/169 "2024-03-11T20:04:33Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@jsc1953](#): > > > > > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > > > > > Not being a Truth Social reader, how accurate was that Trump post that Kimmel read? > > > > 100% verbatim. > > Any idea what set Trump off? It didn’t seem especially political to me. There was one joke about the Republican response to the State of the Union, but other than that, not much. Wokeness. In reality Kimmel could have been bottle feeding newborn tiger cubs for three hours and Trump would have said the same thing. Kimmel goes at him hard every night so of course he’s “the worst.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/170 "2024-03-11T20:08:38Z")
Honestly, it was painful to watch and listen to him struggle through that. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/171 "2024-03-11T20:19:56Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > The Eilish tune was kind of an add-on to Barbie, but the Academy voters have learned to go with what their kids are listening to… What does this mean? It plays over the big eomotional moment and was incorporated in the score. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/172 "2024-03-11T22:34:36Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > It was hard to read some of the names - usually, they show the graphic in full on the TV screen, but this time they wanted to keep the singer and dancers in the shot the whole time. There was a screen full of names at the end that was pretty much impossible to read, although I doubt they would have relegated Welch or Young to that. This has been my pet peeve about the In Memoriam segment for years. I understand the concept of wanting to have appropriate background music while showing the names, photos, and sometimes clips of the people being memorialized, but the emphasis should be on the latter, not the former. I remember when the whole screen was taken up with the photos and clips, but now they keep pulling back to show the musician or singer (and why do we need _dancers?_) so you can’t read the names of the deceased. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/173 "2024-03-12T00:39:49Z")
Al Pacino on the final award: > [@](#): > > "“There seems to be some controversy about my not mentioning every film by name last night before announcing the best picture award,” Pacino said. “ **I just want to be clear it was not my intention to omit them, rather a choice by the producers not to have them said again since they were highlighted individually throughout the ceremony**. I was honored to be a part of the evening and chose to follow the way they wished for this award to be presented.I realize being nominated is a huge milestone in one’s life and to not be fully recognized is offensive and hurtful. I say this as someone who profoundly relates with filmmakers, actors and producers so I deeply empathize with those who have been slighted by this oversight and it’s why I felt it necessary to make this statement.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/174 "2024-03-12T00:44:16Z")
Even if he wasn’t supposed to read the list of nominees, what he did say was weird enough, “Best Picture, uh, I have to go to the envelope for that. And I will. Here it comes. And my eyes see _Oppenheimer_?” ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/175 "2024-03-12T04:00:44Z")
Pacino is absolutely right. It offends the nature and purpose of the ceremony to not name the nominees at this point – they are all “winners” just for being on such an honoured list. The way that distinguished actors individually praised each of the nominees in the “best actor” categories very effectively supported that spirit. The producers made the right choice in showing excerpts from the Best Picture nominees throughout the ceremony, but they were dead wrong in insisting that the names not be read out when it came time to hand out the Oscar. This is the highlight of the whole event, FFS, at least take a minute to mention all the nominees. > [@Loach](#): > > Wokeness. > > In reality Kimmel could have been bottle feeding newborn tiger cubs for three hours and Trump would have said the same thing. Kimmel goes at him hard every night so of course he’s “the worst.” Kimmel handled it beautifully. By reading out this childish drivel and then saying it came from “a former president of the United States” he made the dichotomy starkly clear. Can anyone imagine Obama or Jimmy Carter or anyone other than a mental five-year-old sending a message like that? And Kimmel finished it off saying he was surprised that Trump was still up and watching – “isn’t it past your jail time?” 😁 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/176 "2024-03-12T05:04:36Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I figure Emma Stone will win. Very prescient of you! I honestly think that Annette Bening was the better actress in _Nyad_, but _Nyad_ just wasn’t as big a movie as _Poor Things_. If it wasn’t going to be Bening, I’m happy it was Stone. I’ve always liked Emma Stone – an accomplished actress, and gorgeous in a kind of understated way. A few little things during this segment of the show endeared her to me even more. When her name was announced, she looked shocked rather than gratified. I thought she was going to cry. And who else but Emma, in this world of pompous glitteratti, could go up to the podium in a state of semi-shock and announce “my dress is broken”! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/177 "2024-03-12T11:09:05Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > …And who else but Emma, in this world of pompous glitteratti, could go up to the podium in a state of semi-shock and announce “my dress is broken”! Jennifer Lawrence, probably. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/178 "2024-03-12T14:42:17Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Best joke of the night was Kimmel telling them to destroy Emma Stone’s envelope before they announce Best Picture. I don’t get the joke, could someone explain? mmm ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/179 "2024-03-12T14:47:16Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I don’t get the joke, could someone explain? When the wrong movie(La La Land) was announced as the winner years ago, it was because Emma Stone’s card was handed to Warren Beatty, so he opened it and saw “Emma Stone - La La Land” and read it as the BP winner. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675/180 "2024-03-12T16:01:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > When the wrong movie(La La Land) was announced as the winner years ago, it was because Emma Stone’s card was handed to Warren Beatty, so he opened it and saw “Emma Stone - La La Land” and read it as the BP winner. And then Price-Waterhouse representatives who, for the first time ever, had to make a correction froze up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/academy-awards-2024-96th-ceremony-watch-along-thread/998675.md?page=10)