# According to Bell Helicopter, 107 is subsequent to 127.  WTF?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 14, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/according-to-bell-helicopter-107-is-subsequent-to-127-wtf/759915 "2016-07-14T19:27:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/according-to-bell-helicopter-107-is-subsequent-to-127-wtf/759915/21 "2016-07-17T11:09:32Z")

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Why do people keep deploying SAP? Why, those wily Germans could sell baggy pants in Williamsburg, they could.

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/according-to-bell-helicopter-107-is-subsequent-to-127-wtf/759915/22 "2016-07-18T22:10:17Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And they are still in business?

It was touch and go there for a while. Several of my friends ended up dropping out of their volunteer activities and personal lives to put in a lot of extra hours at work. It wasn’t pretty.

> [@Princhester](#):
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> You couldn’t just put 22 dummy parts in, so the numbers would work out?

It looks like they actually had a 54 part number gap. If they couldn’t get their real records of those 54 part numbers to import correctly, what are the odds they could fake 54 dummy part numbers in the right places to make everything sync up again? And why input dummy data into your production system? If the old records were incomplete/crappy enough that they don’t pass the data validation to be imported into the new system then you’re probably better off without them.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> And it might even be one that just isn’t worth the effort of resolving, but in most cases it means that the organization should be using better systems and certain overpaid software hacks should be strung up by their balls from the nearest tree.

Your attitude fairly closely reflects mine. When importing our data during our conversion we had tons of materials fall out because they didn’t have data that we’d consider immaterial to the record but that SAP just HAD TO HAVE, it was a REQUIRED FIELD. Of course it was only required because some developer at some point had wanted it to be, and therefore it became the mold that every other SAP customer forever had to be forced into, but hey…

> [@kferr](#):
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> I wrote part of that material management system when I was at Boeing back in the late 80’s. You’re welcome.

You may have done your job a little too well actually. SONIC has worked “good enough” for decades and most of the people who really understand it have moved on. So when it came time to sunset SONIC it was basically impossible. No one knew how it worked or why it did what it did. We’d spend days tracing the root cause of order failures or have to call in retired people to help us figure things out. They loved that. I would too. Coming back as a consultant at 5x the rate I used to work for is the dream that keeps me going today.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/according-to-bell-helicopter-107-is-subsequent-to-127-wtf/759915/23 "2016-07-22T13:05:44Z")

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The OPs numbering system unfortunately fails to account for [the](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15414132&postcount=9) [number](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17238416&postcount=138) [wisserteen](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17238980&postcount=148), an important concept in engineering.

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