# Accusations Flying About Re: Mrs. Kerry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 21, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209 "2004-07-21T17:25:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/21 "2004-07-21T19:03:32Z")

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Oh, stupid stupid stupid. Mrs. Kerry isn’t running for President. She’s just along for the ride. Shit like this is just designed to be annoying for her.

Screw it. Criticize _Kerry_, not his family.

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> Do you think she’s going to be up late at night plotting his murder by sticking a knitting needle through his ear or something?

No way, man, she’s going to use the power of SATAN!!! to force John Kerry to allow them hummuh-sessuls t’git married.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/22 "2004-07-21T19:39:18Z")

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I would like to be a willing and uncomplaining beneficiary of some of that Heinz money. Is there a place where I could go to sign up?

I bet even GWBs daughters are willing beneficiaries of the Bush family money. The probably do complain, though, since they are young and that is one of the things young folks do.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/23 "2004-07-21T19:54:01Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Thanks.
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> Another line that pisses me off is the “is that someone you want sleeping on the next pillow to the President of the United States?” Why make it sound so sinister?

How quickly we forget the lessons of the French Revolution. 😛

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/24 "2004-07-21T20:02:12Z")

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So, what famous Nazi propagandist should the WorldNetDaily be compared to? Bueler? Bueler?

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/25 "2004-07-21T20:04:32Z")

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Bueler was a Nazi?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/26 "2004-07-21T20:36:59Z")

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If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it her first husband who introduced Heinz-Kerry to Kerry in the first place? I also believe that Kerry and Heinz, despite their differences, were rather friendly.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/27 "2004-07-21T21:05:03Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> Bueler was a Nazi?

He could sing “Danke Schoen.”

Case closed.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/28 "2004-07-21T21:34:38Z")

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> These grants were used solely to support a pollution prevention initiative and other environmentally friendly practices by industries in Western Pennsylvania

_Pollution prevention?_ This will not be borne!

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**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/29 "2004-07-21T21:55:17Z")

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**They support the “Barrio Warriors,” a radical Hispanic groupwhose primary goal is to return all of Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico.**

You know, there may be something to this…I live very near to the Texas border, and from the vantage point of my “compound”, I have observed groups of Mexican males conducting troop movements in my neighborhood.

They generally operate under the guise of ‘landscapers’ and ‘gardeners’, and stockpile dangerous equipment such as leaf blowers, riding lawn mowers, chain saws and hedge trimmers in the garages of unsuspecting Anglo-Saxons during the day.

They even have women intelligence gatherers, posing as “cleaning women” in sensitive locations such as offices and the private homes of wealthy locals.

If people in the rest of the country were only aware of the sorts of clandestine activities that go on in the very block that I live in - they’d immediately stock up on bottled water, ammo. and antibiotics and head for the Ozarks.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/30 "2004-07-21T23:23:48Z")

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> Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry was born in Mozambique, the daughter of a Portuguese physician, was educated in Switzerland and South Africa. Fluent in five languages, she was working as a United Nations interpreter in Geneva…

Sounds to me like the woman is far more qualified for a role in public life than our current president.

Thanks, Mr. Farah! 🙂

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/31 "2004-07-21T23:52:04Z")

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> [@Apos](#):
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> So, what famous Nazi propagandist should the WorldNetDaily be compared to? Bueler? Bueler?

I hope you’re not looking my way. I just think he’s a liar and a shit.

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**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/32 "2004-07-22T01:18:23Z")

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So she’s an intelligent woman who can speak five foriegn languages, at least one of them fluently enough to interpret, who’s now rich but was not born into wealth, and who gives money to worthy charities.

Sounds scary to me.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/33 "2004-07-22T03:47:10Z")

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> [@Apos](#):
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> So, what famous Nazi propagandist should the WorldNetDaily be compared to? Bueler? Bueler?

Um, what? No one did that. They took it, debunked it, insulted WorldNetDaily, and said nice things about Theresa Heinz-Kerry. That doesn’t sound _too_ far from the board’s mission of, you know, _fighting ignorance_. Who brought up Nazi propaganda? Why would this be considered propaganda at all? The government creates propaganda, not independent journalists. This sort of thing is usually termed _idiocy_. No one was making the accusations you’re countering.

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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/34 "2004-07-22T03:49:26Z")

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Color me whooshed - I thought it was some kind of insider slam on Ben Stein.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/35 "2004-07-22T04:09:44Z")

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Gracious.  
I did read this.  
On a christian board.  
They were scandalized.  
I like Teresa already.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/36 "2004-07-22T04:10:15Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> He could sing “Danke Schoen.”
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> Case closed.

Have Wayne Newton arrested! At once!

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/37 "2004-07-22T04:17:49Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Um, what? No one did that.

Oh?

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> They took it, debunked it, insulted WorldNetDaily, and said nice things about Theresa Heinz-Kerry. That doesn’t sound _too_ far from the board’s mission of, you know, _fighting ignorance_. Who brought up Nazi propaganda?

Nazi propagandistS. The usual comparisons that suddenly became perfectly reasonable with the special conditional repeal of Godwin’s law for only left wing movie-makers. I was just waiting to hear from some of the peanut gallery, that declared this sort of thing as a perfectly reasonable, which Nazi comparison or description of propaganda or hyperbolic hatred this particular WND glurge should be characterized as.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/38 "2004-07-22T04:56:34Z")

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> Fluent in five languages. . .

Hey, now! That is only five more than GWB. 😉  
You know what I find interesting? The way that the extreme Right always chooses to vilify the wives of Democratic presidential candidates. I think that Mrs. Mondale is the only wife of a candidate or First Lady in the last 28 years who was not vilified (usually for being a strong, independent woman).

Are the extreme Right loonies _that_ frightened of women who do not have their astrologers set their husbands’ schedules?

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/39 "2004-07-22T05:02:03Z")

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Good one, tom.

I think they will look for ANY part of the D candidate to find a slur.

Next: Kerry’s pet is pro-abortion!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/accusations-flying-about-re-mrs-kerry/256209/40 "2004-07-22T05:33:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Have Wayne Newton arrested! At once!

Shoulda been done long ago. Just for the moustache.

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