# Ace0spades deserves your approbrium scorn and contempt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2002, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945 "2002-11-02T02:27:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/21 "2002-11-02T18:51:16Z")
Pssst … it’s spelled “opprobrium”, with an o. At first I thought the thread title was using a schmancy Latin form of “approval” - but then it appeared obvious that this was mainly **Scylla** ’s usual pouting about how not everyone in the world recognizes his brilliance and insight, and how some even have the temerity to explain so in factual detail. Nice of you to admit the possibility of being wrong, though. Try to remember that thought _before_ speaking/writing in the future and life will become much easier. **Ace** I have no explanation or defense for this time, though. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/22 "2002-11-02T19:52:07Z")
Esteemed **Lynn** this unworthy one approaches. If a man has no voice, how can he make amends? **Scylla** has done himself, and us, considerable honor by acknowledging his own failings and making a conciliatory gesture. As one who is equally hag-ridden by ego, I can attest that it comes at considerable cost, and not to be taken lightly. As it stands, a worthy process will stand half-completed. May I try your patience long enough to suggest that a reconsideration, as well as a stern admonition, might be called for? Please note: no defense of **Ace’s** behavior is being made, as **Milo** (the much celebrated paragon of polite discourse) is quick to point out, my own virtue is by no means unsullied. We Texans, it would seem, are oftimes quick to anger and to stern judgement. But if he should wish now to heal the breach, how might he do so? Is it permissible for him to e-mail to one of us, that such might be posted on his behalf, or is this an offense to the Protocols? (No, really…is that ok? Lord knows, pissing off an administrator is more than my feeble courage can muster). I have it on very good authority that prodigals returning can be celebrated above the already virtuous, and here lies an opportunity. If that opportunity is passed by, we are none the worse, if accepted, so much the better. If, upon consideration, you determine to let your decision stand, I will, of course, say nothing further about it. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/23 "2002-11-02T20:08:19Z")
People rarely torment wild animals on their own kitchen floor. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/24 "2002-11-02T20:08:20Z")
Can I point out for posterity’s sake that we have two posters, one registered 06-27-2001 named [Ace0Spades,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=15377) currently in the “timeout” corner, and another one registered 04-22-2000 named [aceospades](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=5891), currently over in GQ worrying about his shoes? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/25 "2002-11-02T22:10:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > If a man has no voice, how can he make amends? via e-mail. > [@](#): > > Is it permissible for him to e-mail to one of us, that such might be posted on his behalf, or is this an offense to the Protocols? A banned (or suspended) user posting to the board by proxy via another username? Very much frowned upon. ---
**Author:** ![I\_am\_Sparticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@I\_am\_Sparticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_am_Sparticus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/26 "2002-11-03T00:31:58Z")
What’s that cliquing sound? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/27 "2002-11-03T00:58:45Z")
> [@](#): > > What’s that cliquing sound? Probably your brain slipping a gear. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/28 "2002-11-03T03:02:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I am Sparticus \* > \*\*What’s that cliquing sound? \*\* It’s me. You caught me. I admit it. It’s all a secret conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/29 "2002-11-03T03:07:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ace0Spades \* > **pompous gasbaggery** This Public Service Announcement brought to you by the Band Name Council ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/30 "2002-11-03T05:02:59Z")
Psst, **Scylla** … It’s a _secret_ conspiracy. That means no blabbing. So quit blabbing. Everyone else: It’s not really a secret conspiracy. There is no conspiracy for it to be. I am not a member of any conspiracy, and neither is **Scylla**. This post brought to you by the Committee for Conspiritological Obscuritanism, with sponsorship from the There Is No Clique Foundation. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/31 "2002-11-03T05:23:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*\*Esteemed **Lynn** this unworthy one approaches. If a man has no voice, how can he make amends? **Scylla** has done himself, and us, considerable honor by acknowledging his own failings and making a conciliatory gesture. As one who is equally hag-ridden by ego, I can attest that it comes at considerable cost, and not to be taken lightly. As it stands, a worthy process will stand half-completed. May I try your patience long enough to suggest that a reconsideration, as well as a stern admonition, might be called for? Please note: no defense of **Ace’s** behavior is being made, as **Milo** (the much celebrated paragon of polite discourse) is quick to point out, my own virtue is by no means unsullied. We Texans, it would seem, are oftimes quick to anger and to stern judgement. > > But if he should wish now to heal the breach, how might he do so? Is it permissible for him to e-mail to one of us, that such might be posted on his behalf, or is this an offense to the Protocols? (No, really…is that ok? Lord knows, pissing off an administrator is more than my feeble courage can muster). > > I have it on very good authority that prodigals returning can be celebrated above the already virtuous, and here lies an opportunity. If that opportunity is passed by, we are none the worse, if accepted, so much the better. If, upon consideration, you determine to let your decision stand, I will, of course, say nothing further about it. \*\* As I noted in my post, he’s in time out…he can write to me after two weeks, and I’ll consider restoring his privileges. I’d also like to point out that I accept gifts (chocolate, sapphires, unmarked bills in small denominations, etc.), though the bribes-er, GIFTS, of course, will have no effect upon my rulings. Lynn ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/32 "2002-11-03T05:32:31Z")
Hey, I don’t like _anybody_ that much! Besides, I was raised by Texas women. Love 'em, no doubt, chase 'em around, absolutely. Pay 'em in advance, not on your life. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/33 "2002-11-03T06:30:04Z")
Ummm…was this supposed to be a “for real” tussle or were Scylla and Ace just satirizing each other to death in a disjointedly recursive, sissy boy slap fight? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2002, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/34 "2002-11-03T16:22:51Z")
I rise in protest! If **Scylla** wishes to be a sissy boy, he has every right to do so! One would add the cautionary note that, by all accounts, he is a _heavily armed_ sissy boy. What do you call a wussy with a shotgun? “Sir” ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/35 "2002-11-04T00:41:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \* > **Ace0Spades** , we had a big discussion about not rewording another person’s post, and putting it in the quote section. We even had an announcement about it for quite a while. You’re in time out for at least two weeks. Write to me after the end of that period, and I might restore your posting privileges, after a review of your posting history. I can’t find the thread that discussed the issue. But I did read it at the time, and my impression was that the concern was about creating the impression that the quoted poster had actually said the quoted words. In this case, Ace, in addition to explaining what he was doing at the outset, also very clearly labelled the post “Originally posted by Scylla, fixed by Ace”. So it was clear that he was not putting it forth as Scylla’s words at all. I would have thought this was OK, or at the very least some sort of borderline case. Of course, it apparently turns out that this is not OK, and it is perhaps best to err on the side of caution when it comes to rules. Understood. Still, I would suggest that this most likely represents an honest misunderstanding of the rules, rather than a flagrant flouting. As such, mercy is called for. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/36 "2002-11-04T09:06:39Z")
**IzzyR,** I think mercy has been granted here. **Ace** was given a two-week timeout, not a permanent ban. Sua ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/37 "2002-11-04T14:14:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I am Sparticus \* > \*\*What’s that cliquing sound? \*\* Sad. That’s all you have? Yeesh- hundreds of great jokes are made on this topic, and this is your worthy contribution? At least your consistent. Question for those _with_ a clue- someone who hates republicans is a “bigot”? Does that hold for someone who hates democrats? Libertarians? Is “bigot” the right word for this use? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/38 "2002-11-04T14:20:46Z")
As stated in Webster’s: **bigot** , _a person obstinately or intolorantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices_. There is no indication the word is used only in racial issues, etc. So yes, I would say it fits. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/39 "2002-11-04T14:32:04Z")
Wow. Serves me right for not checking the boards on the weekends. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945/40 "2002-11-04T16:04:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gorgon Heap \* > \*\*As stated in Webster’s: **bigot** , _a person obstinately or intolorantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices_. > > There is no indication the word is used only in racial issues, etc. So yes, I would say it fits. \*\* Thanks! While it seems that definition would cover a more then a few posters around here at times 😉 , I wonder if it was appropriate in this context. Of course this is not defending Ace, or attacking the OP- just to be clear. > [@](#): > > What is worse though is that Ace is a bigot. Ace has an unreasoning and fanatical hatred of Republicans. He wears it like a badge that he is proud of. The definition I found: > [@](#): > > ## big·ot Pronunciation Key (bgt) n. One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. > > [French, from Old French.] > Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant “an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.” Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense “a superstitious hypocrite.” > > Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition [http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=bigot](http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=bigot) Here are some more: > [@](#): > > bigot > > \Big"ot, n. [F. bigot a bigot or hypocrite, a name once given to the Normans in France. Of unknown origin; possibly akin to Sp. bigote a whisker; hombre de bigote a man of spirit and vigor; cf. It. s-bigottire to terrify, to appall. Wedgwood and others maintain that bigot is from the same source as Beguine, Beghard.] 1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.] > > 1. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion. > > ## To doubt, where bigots had been content to wonder and believe. --Macaulay. Source: Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. > > bigot > > ## n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University > > * * * Guess your probably right- the use in reference to a political party just through me for a bit, especially with the comments that followed the usage. However, the definitions above do mention politics several times. Thanks again! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ace0spades-deserves-your-approbrium-scorn-and-contempt/134945.md?page=3)