# Aceplace57, what the fuck is wrong with you?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698 "2015-05-24T02:21:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/561 "2017-08-23T18:08:42Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> It has a lot to do with who was saying it.

I just need to know if there will be a duel. If there’s not going to be a duel, I am saddened.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/562 "2017-08-23T18:30:12Z")

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Sirrah, I demand satisfaction! Here is my card. I shall have my second meet with your second to arrange the details of the match.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/563 "2017-08-23T18:38:25Z")

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[How I’m picturing cochrane right now](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d6/a1/fe/d6a1feba9aefe6513ea148411b582b5d--royal-babies-prince-georges.jpg).

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/564 "2017-08-23T18:38:50Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> You obviously misunderstood what I wrote.
> 
> Bash the guy all you want. Go fifty pages laughing at him, calling him names, a Nazi lover, whatever. Virtue signal to your friends and palls to your hearts content.
> 
> Call the guy a coward because he won’t stand before you and the crowd, and answer to you the shit that’s being tossed his way? I’ll call you the pathetic fuck that you are. And I did.

He’s a lucky man to have you on his side.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/565 "2017-08-23T18:46:56Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> It’s a bit odd that he can be called every name in the book except coward.

Well, that’s a relief. I thought we were going to have to stop making fun of Acey now that his white knight has arrived. Apparently it’s just “coward” that’s off limits. Good to know!

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/566 "2017-08-23T18:48:17Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> He’s a lucky man to have you on his side.

“Someone is taunting a fellow Trump supporter! TO THE TROLLMOBILE!!!”

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/567 "2017-08-23T18:55:04Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> Virtue signal to your friends and palls to your hearts content.

Time out, ref!

I have a question. What does “virtue signalling” mean? I’ve started to see it on the boards recently, it seems to mean “using certain words or ideas to convey superiority over someone else.” Except, as I have seen it used in context on this board, it actually means “a phrase used by conservatives to convey their superiority over liberals.”

Which seems both completely apt and completely ironic at the same time. Which is puzzling to me. Which leads me to my second question: do conservatives not understand irony?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/568 "2017-08-23T20:01:13Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> What does “virtue signalling” mean?

The [Wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling) is surprisingly good for this one (and I’m far from a hater of Wikipedia).

To put it simply, it’s accusing people make moral statements of doing so just for social reasons, and not out of true belief. In this context, it means\* that we’re just hating on **aceplace** because it’s the cool thing to do, and not because we legitimately have a problem with him.

I actually do think this happens sometimes in communities. Someone is the designated hate target, and someone who wants to ingratiate themselves will be sure to tell everyone about how they hate that guy.

But I don’t notice that in this thread.

\*I say that, but I’m not sure the poster actually put that much thought into it, and doesn’t just think it means what you thought it meant.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/569 "2017-08-23T20:01:51Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Time out, ref!
> 
> I have a question. What does “virtue signalling” mean? I’ve started to see it on the boards recently, it seems to mean “using certain words or ideas to convey superiority over someone else.” Except, as I have seen it used in context on this board, it actually means “a phrase used by conservatives to convey their superiority over liberals.”
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> Which seems both completely apt and completely ironic at the same time. Which is puzzling to me. Which leads me to my second question: do conservatives not understand irony?

Conservatives might. Radical reactionaries (among whom I include Mr. Logan), not so much. If they did, they’d probably be slower to label their _ **RADICAL** _ positions as “conservative.”

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/570 "2017-08-23T20:06:41Z")

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> [@HeweyLogan](#):
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> I’ll call you the pathetic fuck that you are. And I did.

The thing is that being called a pathetic fuck by a pathetic fuck doesn’t have a lot of impact.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/571 "2017-08-23T20:07:10Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> Well, that’s a relief. I thought we were going to have to stop making fun of Acey now that his white knight has arrived. Apparently it’s just “coward” that’s off limits. Good to know!

That, and I guess lay off with the virtue signalling, it drives Trump voters up a wall.

> [@Ravenman](#):
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> … Except, as I have seen it used in context on this board, it actually means “a phrase used by conservatives to convey their superiority over liberals.”  
> …

Yes, so no laying off of the virtue signalling when it’s directed at stinking SJWs. MAGA!

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/572 "2017-08-23T21:15:44Z")

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If our new white knight is using the phrase virtue signaling in the “jumping on the thread because all the cool kids” way, then I would like to point out that acey was driving by me up the ducking wall long before this thread existed.

That’s how cool I am. I was an original hater.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/573 "2017-08-23T22:24:04Z")

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Virtue signalling is nothing new. Look at this [crowd of young people](https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/61659.jpg) getting together to virtue signal against Nazis. You can sense the potential for violence.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/574 "2017-08-24T03:58:46Z")

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**Acey** moved one of his imaginary daughters into a [dorm](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=834399)room.

Many students decorate dorm rooms. You know, like taping up a poster or setting up a stereo. I know this from perusing old issues of Playboy.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/575 "2017-08-24T09:34:52Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> A lot has been made about Trump empowering racists. Not enough has been said about Trump empowering idiots.

> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> This might be one of the worst side effects of a Trump presidency. These idiotic mouth breathing redneck racists now feel like they have a voice.

Well, there’s always the [Roman Hruska](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Hruska) defense:

> [@](#):
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> Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance?

One more time for Roman Hruska!

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/576 "2017-08-24T10:14:58Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> **Acey** moved one of his imaginary daughters into a [dorm](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=834399)room.
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> Many students decorate dorm rooms. You know, like taping up a poster or setting up a stereo. I know this from perusing old issues of Playboy.

“Set up a stereo.” :dubious: With a turntable and a cassette deck, no doubt.

Acey obviously hasn’t seen an actual dorm room since the 1980s.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/577 "2017-08-24T15:44:35Z")

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[An \*\*acey \*\*post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20435556&postcount=80) is like beatnik poetry.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/578 "2017-08-24T20:18:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [An \*\*acey \*\*post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20435556&postcount=80) is like beatnik poetry.

I’ll be performing that post tomorrow (accompanying myself on bongos) at the coffeehouse open mike night. Hope to see you there!

> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> **Acey** moved one of his imaginary daughters into a [dorm](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=834399)room.

I wonder what the other “daughter” is up to? **Acey** mentioned in [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20404437&postcount=28) that they’re the same age (though apparently not twins—seems like he would have mentioned that):

> [@At what age would you leave your kid in the house by themselves?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-age-would-you-leave-your-kid-in-the-house-by-themselves/793272/28):
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> My daughters were left alone, at home for a hour or two when they were 8.

Maybe Daughter #2 flunked out of college. Or perhaps she’s in the Phantom Zone with the missing son.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/579 "2017-08-24T20:36:22Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [An \*\*acey \*\*post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20435556&postcount=80) is like beatnik poetry.

I like the wordplay. “aweighs in” would have worked too.

“A former Navy Helmsman and Lookout \*\*wades \*\*in.” [bolding all me]

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/580 "2017-08-24T21:53:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Virtue signalling is nothing new. Look at this [crowd of young people](https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/61659.jpg) getting together to virtue signal against Nazis. You can sense the potential for violence.

Libtards couldn’t find any POC to pose with them? Sad.

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