# Aceplace57, what the fuck is wrong with you?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698 "2015-05-24T02:21:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/681 "2019-01-15T02:01:53Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Hee Hee Hee. Ban the fucker!

It’s mendacious idiocy, but is that a bannable offense here?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/682 "2019-01-15T02:26:19Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> It’s mendacious idiocy, but is that a bannable offense here?

Lying in that fashion is a form of trolling and it’s also being a jerk.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/683 "2019-01-15T02:38:09Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> It’s mendacious idiocy, but is that a bannable offense here?

Yeah, the safe bet with Acey is that it’s mendacity combined with dimwittedness, rather than bereavement. But is there any commitment to be completely honest about personal details? I imagine that some people may fabricate the kind of exact personal details that might identify them, especially when the details aren’t relevant. I’d prefer to know who I’m talking to, but ultimately it’s the merits of what people post that matters.

I think I’d find this problematic - and maybe warnable - only if it were directly related to the substance what someone was posting. If they were misrepresenting themselves as experienced parents in a thread about serious parenting issues, say. I’m not sure a thread about beanies rises to that level.

The nature of the internet means that half of us are really dogs, bots or Russian infiltrators, right?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/684 "2019-01-15T02:58:52Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Wut? My sister lost a child. She still refers to him as her child. And always will.

True, but then why didn’t he say, “I had a son, blah blah blah.”

Plus, that’s not the only discrepancy in his posts.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/685 "2019-01-15T03:09:05Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> True, but then why didn’t he say, “I had a son, blah blah blah.”
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> Plus, that’s not the only discrepancy in his posts.

I do agree with you. I was disputing his having a deceased son. He would not disavow a son if he was dead. He may say something like"My deceased son blah, blah, blah…". But he wouldn’t say he didn’t have a son.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/686 "2019-01-15T04:47:34Z")

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Is **acey’s** son Chuck Cunningham?

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/687 "2019-01-15T15:49:57Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Is **acey’s** son Chuck Cunningham?

Well, he’s not Denise Huxtable.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/688 "2019-01-15T16:18:05Z")

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It appears to turn out that he’s [Luke Brower](https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&source=hp&ei=kAU-XOuFI7KBk-4PrZS60A8&q=what+role+did+leonardo+dicaprio+play+on+growing+pains&oq=what+character+did+leonardo+dicaprio+play+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-hp.1.0.0i22i30l5.4615.25003..26985...0.0..0.307.5123.20j19j2j1....2..0....1.......5..41j0i131j0j46i131j0i70i259j33i299j0i70i251j33i22i29i30.hGSaADdx8dE).

[#breakingnews](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21430961&postcount=72)

ETA: The egg-banking CPA who’s in college is still a bit of a puzzler, but I have a sister in her late fifties who went back to school at 51 to get her doctorate, so it’s not unheard of.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/689 "2019-01-15T23:21:53Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Yeah, the safe bet with Acey is that it’s mendacity combined with dimwittedness, rather than bereavement. But is there any commitment to be completely honest about personal details?

**aceplace** does not strike me as the type who lies to protect his identity. Also, this type of lie would not be very useful in hiding identity–it’s not like finding out he really has a son would help us find him in real life. It’s an inconsequential detail, and when someone lies when it’s not important, I worry of having a compulsive liar. And I’m sure we all know the problems that can cause if we’ve ever interacted with one.

That said, I don’t think **aceplace** is one of those. There are three simpler explanations that occurred to me instantly:

[ol]  
[li]He disavowed his son. This is a thing that happens. And “I have no son” is exactly how that is usually expressed. [/li]  
[li]Less likely given his own knowledge of the matter, but he could have a trans daughter, and makes a big deal out of saying she is not his son.[/li]  
[li]He has no biological son, but had someone he at the time considered essentially a son. Maybe a godson or a stepson. Or a nephew or something. That would fall under “simplifying the truth,” which is something I think we all do to some extent not to have to explain irrelevant shit.[/li][/ol]

I would put all of these, including number 2, as more likely than **aceplace** having been secretly a troll playing a character.

And, yes, I know I’m coming up with reasons that he could use if he were actually a troll. I just don’t really care if that is the extent of his trolling. Though, if he copies any of my reasons, I will be more suspicious of him.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/690 "2019-01-15T23:27:56Z")

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Oops. Should have checked the thread first. Seems it was number 3, but one I hadn’t considered: a foster kid.

> [@Kids keep losing their $350 beanies at school](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-keep-losing-their-350-beanies-at-school/827691/72):
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> A foster child that my wife & I sponsored.
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> Old history. We did the best we could for the short time that we had the teenager. He hasn’t been in contact with us since leaving.

Maybe a hint of number 1 in there, too.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/691 "2019-01-15T23:30:54Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> **aceplace** does not strike me as the type who lies to protect his identity.

No, I wasn’t suggesting that. By “mendacity combined with dimwittedness” I meant that Acey somehow thought that a casual lie about personal details made some post sound more convincing at the time, and he just forgot about it. That’s seems like the most likely explanation given his posting history.

I brought up the identity issue more to make the point that there may be valid reasons why some people want to be very careful about revealing personal details, and I see no reason why the board should insist on truthfulness on such matters when they are not relevant. If so, why allow pseudonyms at all.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/692 "2019-01-15T23:33:05Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/693 "2019-01-16T00:05:27Z")

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I think Ace is extremely annoying - in fact, he’s one of only two posters here who I find sufficiently annoying that I can even name them off the top of my head, and the other one has an extremely similar style. With that being said, I don’t think he has some kind of cloak and dagger con game going on regarding information about his personal life. He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy to play mind games. He’s just dense.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/694 "2019-01-16T00:27:34Z")

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Meh, I’m still skeptical.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/695 "2019-01-17T06:34:47Z")

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> [@Lamoral](#):
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> I think Ace is extremely annoying - in fact, he’s one of only two posters here who I find sufficiently annoying that I can even name them off the top of my head, and the other one has an extremely similar style. With that being said, I don’t think he has some kind of cloak and dagger con game going on regarding information about his personal life. He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy to play mind games. He’s just dense.

His family is completely fake. There are just too many contradictions. His daughters have been undergraduates for a decade. That said, I don’t think he’s trolling. He just has a little fantasy of a family he wishes he had. It doesn’t bother me and I hope he doesn’t get banned for it. He’s a clueless idiot, but his fake family is the least of his sins.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/696 "2019-01-17T14:10:19Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> His family is completely fake. There are just too many contradictions. His daughters have been undergraduates for a decade. That said, I don’t think he’s trolling. He just has a little fantasy of a family he wishes he had. It doesn’t bother me and I hope he doesn’t get banned for it. He’s a clueless idiot, but his fake family is the least of his sins.

Bingo. There is no family here. He is a sad little man living a fantasy online.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/697 "2019-01-17T17:38:06Z")

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Well, I have no time for his posts, but ganging up on him for no particular reason from the safe anonymity of your computer doesn’t seem particularly admirable either. If the worst thing that’s been said about him in this thread is true, so what?

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/698 "2019-01-17T18:01:46Z")

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This thread has plenty of ridicule for his clueless old man schtick, which can distract from shit he says which is actively harmful. His overt sexism – leering at women, wondering why he can’t talk about the big hooters on his friends’ teenage daughters, and just yesterday arguing that sexist behavior was wiped out 40 years ago and there’s nothing more needed – is hurtful to real people and makes the board a worse place.

So yeah, the worst things said about him do actually matter. Comments on his clueless postings are more common because it’s more fun to post about the funny stuff than the ugly stuff.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/699 "2019-01-17T18:47:14Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Well, I have no time for his posts, but ganging up on him for no particular reason from the safe anonymity of your computer doesn’t seem particularly admirable either. If the worst thing that’s been said about him in this thread is true, so what?

There are plenty of reasons. Making up a son is not even close to the worst shit he’s said.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/700 "2019-01-17T20:20:32Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> This thread has plenty of ridicule for his clueless old man schtick, which can distract from shit he says which is actively harmful. His overt sexism – leering at women, wondering why he can’t talk about the big hooters on his friends’ teenage daughters, and just yesterday arguing that sexist behavior was wiped out 40 years ago and there’s nothing more needed – is hurtful to real people and makes the board a worse place.
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> So yeah, the worst things said about him do actually matter. Comments on his clueless postings are more common because it’s more fun to post about the funny stuff than the ugly stuff.

And easier.

> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> There are plenty of reasons. Making up a son is not even close to the worst shit he’s said.

**TroutMan** did it better.

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