# Aceplace57, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698 "2015-05-24T02:21:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Acey is the kind of guy who agrees that Trump is evil incarnate, but when election day rolls around, he’ll say, ‘aw shucks, the Democrat party just didn’t give me a choice.’ ⁢

I don’t see that at all. I think he’s just kinda gullible, and listens to the type of sensationalist, overdramatic stuff my dad watches. I notice he also will make thread about one of those sensationalist media videos—the ones about celebs and actors and stuff.

But I do think he is firmly anti-Trump, and liberal if not progressive. I think he doesn’t have a good BS filter. He relies a lot on the board to help him tell what is true.

My dad also does this. He never buys into Trump-level hatred, or being scared of people not like him. But he’ll still sometimes assume that the right wing stuff got the basic facts right. But he listens and learns when I debunk things.

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I think he’s just kinda gullible, and listens to the type of sensationalist, overdramatic stuff my dad watches. I notice he also will make thread about one of those sensationalist media videos—the ones about celebs and actors and stuff.

You know, a moron.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/863 "2024-08-08T20:31:46Z")

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You know, you’re rude? 😐

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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It’s a rift on Blazing Saddles.

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Ah, well. One of the classics.🤔

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/866 "2024-08-08T21:23:59Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> We got off on a tangent, so I’m bringing it here. What the hell is your problem with Seattle?

I don’t have any problems with Seattle or San Francisco. I was using them as two examples of progressive run cities. There are others like Portland.

The Walz thread was discussing his alignment as a progressive politician. I was trying to understand what that means. How would he govern if something happened to Harris. The best examples of progressives measures are in Seattle, San Francisco and Portland. The true test of any political theory is to see the results. Some Progressive politicians have been in charge in those cities for several years.

I wasn’t attacking Walz or progressives. I was trying to contribute to an election thread. I’ve already accepted Harris as the only sensible choice in this election. I have never liked her, but she’s a thousand times better than Trump.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/867 "2024-08-08T21:26:24Z")

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You said you didn’t support what the Progressives in Seattle were doing. So, I’m curious what those things are.

> [@Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz as VP](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/146):
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> I support those issues.
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> That’s not what Progressives are doing in Seattle and San Francisco

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This thread should be closed, because the OP Guinastasia, is quite dead and has been for several years.

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he so much reminds me of a poster from about 2 decades ago… anyone remember December ? another vague old dude except I think December was a bit more conservative

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> This thread should be closed, because the OP Guinastasia, is quite dead and has been for several years.

How is that relevant? The _subject_ of the thread is still with us.

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It’s pretty clear that you get much of your news from Fox News. Just say no. They’re not News, they’re outrage porn. Find a better, reputable source.

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> This thread should be closed, because the OP Guinastasia, is quite dead and has been for several years.

I don’t think that that’s what she would have wanted

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The Walz thread was discussing his alignment as a progressive politician. I was trying to understand what that means. How would he govern if something happened to Harris.

I’d think looking at how he has actually governed his own state would provide good examples.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
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The problems in progressives cities are well known. San Francisco has been discussed in imho threads.  
Homeless tents on the sidewalks.  
Drug use directly outside the stores.  
Shit on the sidewalks  
Businesses closing because people are afraid to go downtown and shop.  
Woke DA’s refusing to prosecute crime

San Francisco gets most of the press. I don’t know if Seattle is similar. [I know the recent election removed several progessive leaders](https://www.theurbanist.org/2023/11/25/takeaways-from-seattles-2023-election/).

It’s not my city and certainly not my political concern. I wouldn’t put up with it. I’d get out of that situation and live & work somewhere else.

YMMV

I wouldn’t even bring it up because I don’t live there. Honestly, I don’t give a damn what happens in a city over a thousand miles from my home.

But Walz is an acknowledged progressive. He could be President if something happens to Harris.

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Seriously, if you don’t trust the old 3 networks & CNN, try Reuters or BBC news. They’re pretty objective. Well the BBC is pretty objective about the US at least.

I use that pair and NPR, but NPR is considered a Liberal mouth piece by some sadly.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/876 "2024-08-08T21:50:06Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Honestly, I don’t give a damn what happens in a city over a thousand miles from my home.

See, that’s your problem. Folks like you don’t really care what’s outside their small comfort zone, but are eager to judge the world without ever going there and getting their info about it from biased and outright lying sources.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
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I live in a high crime area. I see the gang graffiti every day 2 blocks from my home.

The only comfort I have is active police enforcement. They’re doing everyrhing possible to keep me and my family safe.

I am thinking about leaving the city after I retire. But for now I can’t deal with a long commute.

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But you just said about San Francisco:

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It’s not my city and certainly not my political concern. I wouldn’t put up with it. I’d get out of that situation and live & work somewhere else.

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The problems in progressives cities are well known. San Francisco has been discussed in imho threads.  
> Homeless tents on the sidewalks.  
> Drug use directly outside the stores.  
> Shit on the sidewalks  
> Businesses closing because people are afraid to go downtown and shop.  
> Woke DA’s refusing to prosecute crime

That’s not an accurate description of Seattle at all. Yes, there have been problems, especially a few years back, but currently Seattle is Progressive and doing fine. I’m off to a Mariner game tomorrow night, and I don’t expect to see homeless tents on the sidewalks, drug use outside of stores, or shit on the sidewalk. You’re buying into deceptive right wing talking points.

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I wouldn’t put up with it. I’d get out of that situation and live & work somewhere else.

Right. Few would. That’s how you can know it’s not real.

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I live in a high crime area. I see the gang graffiti every day 2 blocks from my home.
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> The only comfort I have is active police enforcement. They’re doing everyrhing possible to keep me and my family safe.
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> I am thinking about leaving the city after I retire. But for now I can’t deal with a long commute.

So why don’t you move to San Francisco, Seattle or Portland if you live in such a hellhole?

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