# Aceplace57, what the fuck is wrong with you?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 24, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698 "2015-05-24T02:21:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/81 "2015-05-26T15:33:36Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He’ll completely fail to understand the point you’re making. Maybe if you explained it in simpler terms?

Touches down there bad.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/82 "2015-05-26T16:28:50Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> “Borderline”?

Well, it’s literally true.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/83 "2015-05-26T19:53:51Z")

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God this pitting was so long overdue. He is one of the most asinine posters this board has ever had. At first I thought he was like this 95 year old geezer so I cut him some slack. But I think he said at some point that he is in late 40s or something. Such a mouth-breathing, sack of waste.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/84 "2015-05-26T20:04:03Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> NOTHING is private with the Duggars. _Nothing._ Why the hell should this be?
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> Dear god I spent years hearing about every stupid detail of Michelle Duggar’s menstrual cycle and childbearing choices. The stupid bitch decides to go for child number nineteen and poor Josie’s premature birth was all over the news for weeks. For years, many of us have been unable to open a newspaper, go online or even walk past a supermarket checkout line without seeing those dumb bastards smirk at us. For years, they’ve literally told us every single fucking thing. Every idiotic thought they have. Worse, they have spent the last ten years of their lives demanding we hold them up as moral exemplars. They’ve also spent that time hiding the abuse.
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> At the very least the authorities should be entitled to know if anything has happened since then and if efforts have been taken to prevent it from happening again.

I am trying to figure out what this thread is about, but you seem to know a whole lot about something you claim to hate. A lot of hostility there.

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**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/85 "2015-05-26T20:08:17Z")

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What exactly is wrong with being “hostile” towards a cult of Christian supremacists? Even before we found out they also have corrupted the state government and covered up multiple incidents of child molestation?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/86 "2015-05-26T20:10:09Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I am trying to figure out what this thread is about, but you seem to know a whole lot about something you claim to hate. A lot of hostility there.

You could say the same about me and Nazi Germany.

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**Author:** ![Haberdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Haberdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haberdash)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/87 "2015-05-26T20:11:31Z")

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It sounds like a typical Christian deflection tactic – nothing is worse than “judging” or failing to “forgive” (only applies to things the Christian wants to defend like child-rape cults, of course – judge and don’t forgive gay weddings or some store not giving free shit to veterans all day long).

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/88 "2015-05-26T20:42:53Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I am trying to figure out what this thread is about, but you seem to know a whole lot about something you claim to hate. A lot of hostility there.

I know a lot about them because I’ve had them shoved in my face for years and years and years.

I hate them for many reasons including their attempts to tell the rest of us how to run our lives.

Here they are telling woman like my late mom that they shouldn’t be allowed to get an abortion even if they are raped:

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> [Josh Duggar's Dad, Running For US Senate, Said Rape And Incest Should Be Punishable By Death](http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/josh_duggar_s_dad_running_for_us_senate_said_rape_and_incest_should_be_punishable_by_death)
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> An archive of Duggar’s 2002 campaign website, which Gawker just dug up, included rather powerful statements against issues like incest and rape, made probably just before the time Josh Duggar, according to police reports published by In Touch, sexually molested five girls, reportedly including family members.
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> “Jim Bob lost the Republican nomination for Senate to Arkansas’ incumbent Senator Tim Hutchinson,” Gawker notes. “His son Josh remained very much alive and went on to molest several underage girls including some of his sisters from 2002-2003.”
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> Like many politicians, Duggar posted his position statements to his 2002 campaign website, in a Q&A format.
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> LOOK: Only ‘Fear Of Consequences’ Keeps Us From Sin: Jessa Duggar’s Father In Law Defends Josh
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> “What is your abortion position, and specifically, where do you stand on rape, incest, and threat to the mother’s health?,” the website asks.
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> “If a woman is raped, the rapist should be executed instead of the innocent unborn baby. Adoption is an option. Many couples would love to adopt and are waiting for a baby. Abortion has been and always will be the destruction of an innocent child,” Jim Bob Duggar said.

So my late mom’s decision to have abortion after she was forcibly assaulted at a party and held down against her will is pure evil. But their very own son’s decision to engage in incest with his sisters merited barely any punishment at all and still should merit nothing to them today beyond much forgiveness from the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/89 "2015-05-26T21:02:45Z")

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Damn Skippy!, **LavenderBlue**.

Anyone who profits from extolling the virtues of their wholesome lifestyle deserves to be dragged thru the mud and tarred-and-feathered for not living up to their own standards.

**Ace** , one bit of advice I learned here long ago - there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity: Ignorance means you just don’t know something, and that’s OK, because we all can learn. Stupidity is holding on to your position or belief when presented with facts and remaining willfully ignorant.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/90 "2015-05-26T23:51:05Z")

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I don’t hate them, mostly because I don’t want to expend that much energy on them, but what ire I do direct them is because of all the damage they do. To their children, to Christians in general and to those they seek to oppress… the GLBT, women, other minorities that don’t align with their narrow, bigoted worldview. Why do I feel this way? I’ve experienced fundamentalism firsthand and know just how much being indoctrinated in that shit can screw you up for a long time. In some cases, forever.

So yeah, they’re little hyper-sexualized (seriously, how can people who have so many restrictions regarding sex, talk / think about it so damn much?) cult can go sit on a cactus and spin.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/91 "2015-05-27T00:30:09Z")

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> [@control-z](#):
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> I am trying to figure out what this thread is about, but you seem to know a whole lot about something you claim to hate. A lot of hostility there.

If you’re going to hate something _shouldn’t_ you know a lot about it? Better to hate something based on ignorance?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/92 "2015-05-27T11:06:58Z")

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The thing that’s bugging me is that they’ve somehow gotten everyone not to realize that they are part of a cult. They see saying anything bad about them as an attack on Christianity. You didn’t see anyone freaking out over Mormon Mitch. And the evangelicals sure didn’t defend the Catholic Church when they said they’d dealt with it.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/93 "2015-05-27T11:10:09Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> _Duck Dynasty_ is a “lookit them freaks” show coming the other way - “lookit how goshdarn \*American \*these people are ! You’ll never be as authentic an American as they are. These people eat spangled stars and shit rugged, individualist bald eagles ramping Harley bikes on the torch of Lady Liberty while John Wayne plays the \*Battle Hymn of the Republic \*with an M-14 rifle”.
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> But it’s still corny as all hell, not to mention a hot spot of high grade, concentrated hickery. They’re walking, talking caricatures of a stereotype that never even existed. And I have no notion how people can take any of it seriously.

Because a lot of people, myself included, know people who act just like them. That’s actually kinda why I didn’t like the show. I could just go watch my relatives.

But that first paragraph is brilliant.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/94 "2015-05-27T18:00:34Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> If you’re going to hate something _shouldn’t_ you know a lot about it?

I knew there was a reason I got my degree in anthropology…

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/95 "2015-05-27T18:33:46Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I knew there was a reason I got my degree in anthropology…

😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/96 "2015-05-28T04:32:54Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> [This.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=751931)

Ah, yeah, in fact, I think he’s mentioned he’s suffered from [head injuries](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15801581&postcount=16) himself, so he doesn’t think it’s a [big deal](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=712735). (It also explains quite a bit)

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/97 "2015-05-28T17:48:16Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> What the fuck is the pit for if not for shouting at people you disagree with? Jesus you’re fucking dumb.

I don’t think he’s Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/98 "2015-05-28T21:12:05Z")

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Do we know if Jesus molested anyone? Has the statutes run out?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/99 "2015-05-28T21:20:39Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Do we know if Jesus molested anyone? Has the statutes run out?

Have you ever seen anyone who started a new religion who hasn’t molested anyone?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aceplace57-what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-you/720698/100 "2015-05-29T00:25:10Z")

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To the best of my knowledge, I have never seen a statue of Jesus molesting anyone.

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