[QUOTE=elucidator]
Miscreants? Excuse me?
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Cute.
[QUOTE=athelas]
Right. Anti-Bush rallies just spring out of nowhere, once a single basher throws dragon teeth on soil. No organization whatsoever.
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Right. Two people with bumper stickers is an organized mob. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
In any case, you do realize the difference between a counter-demonstration which stands around showing support for the President, and one specifically organized to drown out protest, don’t you?
Of course it was “planned”, the sticker was already on the car! Obviously, they’d been planing this move to demoralize our troops for some time!
[QUOTE=Harborwolf]
Personally, I’d rather the president had other things on his mind when seeing protesters than “Hey. Those people are making me look bad. Get me some people to make me look good.” Plus it seems a bit too ministry of propaganda to me.
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You can’t run a government without propaganda. Unfortunately for Bush, his people just aren’t very good at it.
You can fool some of the people all of the time. Roughly, 30%.
Well, having an Advance Operations Manual of some sort is clearly nothing new: there’s one listed among the Reagan library holdings, for example. I don’t know what’s in it, though, nor whether or how it differs from the Bush team’s version.
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]
You can’t run a government without propaganda.
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Of course you can.
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]
But you haven’t given any reasons that the President shouldn’t do it, other than that it’s “dishonest” and “bad in a civic sense”.
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Those should be sufficient.
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]
This is advertising; it’s PR, and the goal is to look as good as you possibly can.
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That has its legitimate place – which is on the campaign trail and nowhere else; and never at government expense.
[QUOTE=elucidator]
story here
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062101583.html
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Yeah, these are the people who got tossed out by a guy impersonating a secret service agent. Did the GOP’s fake agent do any time in the slammer?
[QUOTE=Harborwolf]
Personally, I’d rather the president had other things on his mind when seeing protesters than “Hey. Those people are making me look bad. Get me some people to make me look good.” Plus it seems a bit too ministry of propaganda to me.
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Not to worry. Bush has people to keep that stuff on their minds so he doesn’t have to.
[QUOTE=Kimstu]
Well, having an Advance Operations Manual of some sort is clearly nothing new: there’s one listed among the Reagan library holdings, for example. I don’t know what’s in it, though, nor whether or how it differs from the Bush team’s version.
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Every President has one of these, I’m sure. You can’t just wander into a location without preparation. I’m willing to bet Reagan’s doesn’t have anything about organizing demonstrations to drown out the opposition, though.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Not to worry. Bush has people to keep that stuff on their minds so he doesn’t have to.
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And the buck stops where?
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
And the buck stops where?
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At a lower level, of course. We are too busy to deal with bucks.
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]
You can’t run a government without propaganda. Unfortunately for Bush, his people just aren’t very good at it.
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Well aware of that. It’s the amount of energy they seem to be employing in it that bothers me.
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
And the buck stops where?
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He has people for that.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Not to worry. Bush has people to keep that stuff on their minds so he doesn’t have to.
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With the amount of people he has keeping their minds on things so he doesn’t have to, one wonders what exactly he has on his mind.
[QUOTE=elucidator]
He has people for that.
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Heh. Those people have people for that.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Heh. Those people have people for that.
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I have a feeling that this particular chain of “people having people” ends in a single very tired wage slave.
The Under Assistant West Coast Promo Man