# "ACORN did absolutely nothing wrong" no longer true **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 6, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467 "2011-04-06T23:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/381 "2011-04-07T21:31:16Z")
Haven’t read the whole thread. Can anyone summarize the conclusions reached? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/382 "2011-04-07T21:33:15Z")
\*\*Shodan \*\*is retarded, \*\*Bricker \*\*is missing the forest for the trees, and \*\*Dio \*\*lives by humming with his fingers stuck in his ears. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/383 "2011-04-07T21:45:16Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Anyone who claims ACORN is “non-partisan” is a liar, a moron, or both. I vote 'both". On the other hand, once the Usual Suspects decide that the facts don’t matter, they don’t lose anything on the SDMB with one more whopper. They can’t look any more stupid, and there is always a chorus of other idiots who will back up anything, providing it is left-wing as well as blatantly insane. > [@John Mace](#): > > Haven’t read the whole thread. Can anyone summarize the conclusions reached? Sure. [ul][li]ACORN didn’t do anything wrong[/li][li]Even if they did, it wasn’t wrong[/li][li]ACORN as an organization was never convicted of anything [/li][li]even if they were, it never happened and doesn’t count[/li][li]Pleading guilty doesn’t mean that you are guilty[/li][li]Being convicted doesn’t mean that you are guilty[/li][li]when ACORN broke the law, they were required to do so by law[/li][li]But they never broke the law[/li][li]and it wasn’t wrong when they did[/li][li]which they didn’t[/li][li]Did not[/li][li]Did not[_]Did not[_]Did not[_]Did not[_]Did not[/li][/ul]I think that pretty much sums it all up. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/384 "2011-04-07T21:49:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I vote 'both". > > On the other hand, once the Usual Suspects decide that the facts don’t matter, they don’t lose anything on the SDMB with one more whopper. They can’t look any more stupid, and there is always a chorus of other idiots who will back up anything, providing it is left-wing as well as blatantly insane. > Sure. > [ul][li]ACORN didn’t do anything wrong[/li][li]Even if they did, it wasn’t wrong[/li][li]ACORN as an organization was never convicted of anything [/li][li]even if they were, it never happened and doesn’t count[/li][li]Pleading guilty doesn’t mean that you are guilty[/li][li]Being convicted doesn’t mean that you are guilty[/li][li]when ACORN broke the law, they were required to do so by law[/li][li]But they never broke the law[/li][li]and it wasn’t wrong when they did[/li][li]which they didn’t[/li][li]Did not[/li][li]Did not[_]Did not[_]Did not[_]Did not[_]Did not[/li][/ul]I think that pretty much sums it all up. > > Regards, > Shodan You forgot the part where you accused Whack a Mole of saying something he did not say, he asked you to point out where he said it, and you ignored him like the cowardly shit-stain that you are. Regards ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/385 "2011-04-07T21:58:00Z")
\*\*Hamlet: \*\* You misunderstand. My question was more a matter of curosity, it struck me as rather odd. I don’t contend that the question has any crucial bearing on the issue. Sometimes I ask questions because I want to know more stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/386 "2011-04-07T21:58:48Z")
You’re right - I forgot to include [ul][li]Change the subject at all costs[/ul][/li] Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/387 "2011-04-07T21:59:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Sometimes I ask questions because I want to know more stuff. lMPOSSlBLE. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/388 "2011-04-07T22:00:18Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > \*\*Shodan \*\*is retarded, \*\*Bricker \*\*is missing the forest for the trees, and \*\*Dio \*\*lives by humming with his fingers stuck in his ears. Respectfully beg to differ. \*\*Shodan \*\*is actually quite bright, in a sleazy, hyper-partisan way. Friend \*\*Bricker \*\*is frequently found to be actively hiding the forest behind the trees. And \*\*Dio \*\*is – well, **Dio**. No argument there. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/389 "2011-04-07T22:33:34Z")
[HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/sec-takes-lighttouch-appr_n_846289.html%5C%5C%5C) This should get people blood flowing. Wachovia was fined 11 million bucks by the SEC. They just defrauded customers, lied to them and made 45 million in the process. Would that piss off BRICKER. Hell no, it is the little people who piss him off. The criminals in ACORN who were trying to hang on to minimum wage jobs. Those are the ones to keep tabs on. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/390 "2011-04-07T23:13:13Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Anyone who claims ACORN is “non-partisan” is a liar, a moron, or both. > > It’s “non-partisan” in the way that The Club For Growth and The Christian Coalition are “non-partisan”. ACORN was absolutely non-partisan. If you want to assert the contary, back it up. Officially, they had no partisan alliance. They had no political agenda at all. If you want to asert that they did, fucking back it up. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/391 "2011-04-07T23:21:46Z")
Doesn’t make sense, comrade. I’m partisan lefty as all git out, no two ways about it. Doesn’t make me a Democrat, and I’ll whup anybody says it does! ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/392 "2011-04-07T23:32:35Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Really fucking petty, **Bricker**. You continue to make yourself smaller and smaller. I used to have some respect for you as a reasonable conservative. It’s getting harder to maintain. I hate to do another “me too” post, but perhaps if we add enough people to the dog pile, **Bricker** will clean up his act. The OP is the epitome of how someone can be technically correct but still full of shit. _This_ is why people hate lawyers. You hear that, Bricker? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/393 "2011-04-07T23:34:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > This was a triumph. > I’m making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS. > It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction… This is the first post to have surprised me in this thread. Good work. ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/394 "2011-04-07T23:35:18Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > ACORN was absolutely non-partisan. If you want to assert the contary, back it up. Officially, they had no partisan alliance. They had no political agenda at all. If you want to asert that they did, fucking back it up. Cite? Signing up poor people to vote? The rest is left as an exercise for the student. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/395 "2011-04-07T23:35:20Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > **Bricker:** Acorn pleads guilty to violating election law. See they sometimes can do wrong, unlike Diogenes claimed. > > \*\*Diogenes: \*\* OK they can make mistakes but that is small potatoes compared to what we were talking about in that thread, and so is largely irrelevant. Still I agree that I was technically wrong although I didn’t know it at the time since the charges hadn’t come out yet. > > **Bricker:** Good, so long as you agree that you misspoke and that like all other organizations ACORN isn’t 100% perfect 100% of the time I’m satisfied. Please close the thread. JESUS! If I’d seen that posted, I’d advise not just closing the thread, but the entire PIT! ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/396 "2011-04-07T23:47:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > ACORN was absolutely non-partisan. If you want to assert the contary, back it up. Officially, they had no partisan alliance. They had no political agenda at all. If you want to asert that they did, fucking back it up. Cite? Explain to me what is wrong with saying they are non-partisan in the same way that The Club For Growth and The Christian Coalition are non-partisan. I assume you’re not one of those morons who thinks that The Christian Coalition is non-partisan even thought they officially are. If you are, please explain you’re reasoning rather than running away with your tail between your legs like you on the earlier thread. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/397 "2011-04-07T23:54:17Z")
The Club for Growth is partisan because they fund exclusively or nearly exclusively GOP candidates to run based on ideas Democrats oppose. Does the GOP oppose registering poor people to vote? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/398 "2011-04-07T23:54:36Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [HuffPost - Breaking News, Politics, Entertainment & Opinion](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/sec-takes-lighttouch-appr_n_846289.html%5C%5C%5C) This should get people blood flowing. Wachovia was fined 11 million bucks by the SEC. They just defrauded customers, lied to them and made 45 million in the process. > Would that piss off BRICKER. Hell no, it is the little people who piss him off. The criminals in ACORN who were trying to hang on to minimum wage jobs. Those are the ones to keep tabs on. Of course, because they have the audacity to \ encourage poor people to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/399 "2011-04-08T00:04:13Z")
> [@Euphonious Polemic](#): > > [Quote=Buck Godot] > > Bricker: Acorn pleads guilty to violating election law. See they sometimes can do wrong, unlike Diogenes claimed. > > Diogenes: OK they can make mistakes but that is small potatoes compared to what we were talking about in that thread, and so is largely irrelevant. Still I agree that I was technically wrong although I didn’t know it at the time since the charges hadn’t come out yet. > > Bricker: Good, so long as you agree that you misspoke and that like all other organizations ACORN isn’t 100% perfect 100% of the time I’m satisfied. Please close the thread. JESUS! If I’d seen that posted, I’d advise not just closing the thread, but the entire PIT! [/quote] If I’d seen that posted, I’d have contacted Ed to make sure he knows someone was hacking into Bricker’s and Dio’s accounts. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-did-absolutely-nothing-wrong-no-longer-true/577467/400 "2011-04-08T00:13:30Z")
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