# ACORN "pimp" arrested for illegally accessing Senate office; tampering with phone system

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**Created:** [January 26, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-pimp-arrested-for-illegally-accessing-senate-office-tampering-with-phone-system/526586 "2010-01-26T23:13:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-pimp-arrested-for-illegally-accessing-senate-office-tampering-with-phone-system/526586/348 "2010-06-04T17:07:57Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> I should point out, that in the latest videos, he does things like ask a question, then jump a full fifty seconds ahead to stitch what may or may not be an answer to it.

As does Moore.

But as a Moore defender points out in the other thread:

> [@Michael Moore is a Dishonest Hack](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-is-a-dishonest-hack/541915/73):
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> But my question upon watching that scene wasn’t one of wondering whether he’d gone through the proper checks. I assumed that he had and that the bank had followed the letter of the law. Banks are pretty anal about that kind of stuff. It was “why is a bank giving its customers guns?” What would showing him filing out the forms you indicate (which I’m not even familiar with and wouldn’t recognize) have done to change the point he was making in that scene?

See, when defending Moore, we can say things like, “Jumping ahead and showing things out of sequence is fine; he was making a point.”

HERE, we say jumping ahead and showing things out of sequence makes the whole sequence untrustworthy.

Seriously: you don’t have a hair on your ass if you can’t acknowledge that Moore in that thread and O’Keefe in this one are being held to very different standards.

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