# ACORN workers caught on tape apparently advising on child prostitution **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 11, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681 "2009-09-11T13:19:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/381 "2009-09-16T15:24:28Z")
I think this is a link to the full unedited tape. I don’t have time to watch it today. [Hotair.Com - Unedited ACORN Tape](http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/15/fox-news-posts-full-unedited-video-of-sting-on-acorn-san-bernardino/) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/382 "2009-09-16T15:39:28Z")
That’s not unedited tape. It’s only about 15 minutes worth. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/383 "2009-09-16T15:45:21Z")
By the way, I was right about the dead husband story. [She made it up to fuck with them.](http://mediamatters.org/research/200909160003) > [@](#): > > However, the San Bernardino Police Department investigated the matter and concluded that the claims made by Tresa Kaelke – the ACORN staffer in question who said she fabricated the story because the actors filming her “were clearly playing with me” – “do not appear to be factual,” and that her “known former husbands” are “alive and well.” That bolsters her claim that she knew they were bogus. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/384 "2009-09-16T19:36:07Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The other tapes are heavily edited as well. Until this O’Keefe person is willing to make the unedited tapes available, I don’t think any of them can be taken at face value. If the unedited tapes are made available, will you take them at face value? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/385 "2009-09-16T19:56:04Z")
Personally, I’m taking them at face value right now. That’s why I consider them pretty much worthless. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/386 "2009-09-16T21:01:14Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > By the way, I was right about the dead husband story. [She made it up to fuck with them.](http://mediamatters.org/research/200909160003) > > That bolsters her claim that she knew they were bogus. Man, these scammers are dense in the extreme if they actually bought that fake “confession”. (and it seems that some of our local dopers (I’m looking at you **steph96** ) also bought the “confession” hook line and sinker. I hope that staff in ACORN across the country starts callling up FOX et al, making up the most ridiculous confessions: “I kidnapped the Lindburgh baby. Yes, it was me.” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/387 "2009-09-16T21:03:21Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > If the unedited tapes are made available, will you take them at face value? Sure. It’s already obvious even from the edited cuts that the ACORN worker was goofing on a couple of speds. That IS face value as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/388 "2009-09-16T21:08:17Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Sure. It’s already obvious even from the edited cuts that the ACORN worker was goofing on a couple of speds. That IS face value as far as I’m concerned. WHAT? you mean that ACORN workers were on speed? Where did they get these drugs? Are they selling them? HEY EVERYONE! ACORN is a front for a drug ring. A drug cartel even! \ Could Obama be the ringleader behind this drug operation? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/389 "2009-09-16T21:38:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > WHAT? you mean that ACORN workers were on speed? Where did they get these drugs? Are they selling them? > > HEY EVERYONE! ACORN is a front for a drug ring. A drug cartel even! > > \ > > Could Obama be the ringleader behind this drug operation? LOL ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/390 "2009-09-16T22:31:24Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I think this is a link to the full unedited tape. I don’t have time to watch it today. > > [Hotair.Com - Unedited ACORN Tape](http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/15/fox-news-posts-full-unedited-video-of-sting-on-acorn-san-bernardino/) Huh. Did you find that at the same website where you found stories about ACORN that actually don’t mention ACORN? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/391 "2009-09-17T03:03:58Z")
Fuckin’ speds! Oughta be allow against 'em! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/392 "2009-09-17T03:32:56Z")
David Vitter has been talking about the ACORN problem. But he has a prostitute problem since he frequented 3 of them and rumor is he liked to wear diapers. Gotta be frustrating to be a repub nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/393 "2009-09-17T05:27:44Z")
What problem? He did it, got caught, said “Yeah, I did it, sorry!” then climbed right back up onto the pulpit. He walked, how has he got a problem? ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/394 "2009-09-17T14:38:32Z")
Hmmmm. > **[ACORN says workers’ conduct ‘indefensible’](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/16/acorn-suspends-plans-audit-wake-videos/)** > > UPDATED: ACORN, calling the actions of some of its employees “indefensible,” has suspended advising new clients as part of its service programs and is setting up an independent review to see what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/395 "2009-09-17T14:47:01Z")
_Must_ you cite the Washington Times? Jeebus. [Here’s the AP story.](http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxhq8CPN8LdLntDEDtE5NrEBQ2IgD9AOR9400) I thought this bit was interesting: > [@](#): > > Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., said he’s asked the Federal Emergency Management Agency to repeal a nearly $1 million grant it awarded to ACORN earlier this month. > > FEMA awarded $997,402 to ACORN in New Orleans on Sept. 4 as part of its Fire Prevention and Safety Grants program. The group plans to use the money to assess fire safety in the homes of low and moderate-income families and hand out smoke and carbon monoxide detectors and other fire prevention gear, ACORN’s Brennan Griffin said. > > FEMA had no immediate comment on Bilirakis’ request. Curse ACORN and their liberal carbon monoxide detectors! ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/396 "2009-09-17T14:56:50Z")
> [@PhiloVance](#): > > Acorn suspends operations; plans audit. > Hmmmm. > > [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/16/acorn-suspends-plans-audit-wake-videos/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/16/acorn-suspends-plans-audit-wake-videos/) I assume you wrote the headline “Acorn suspends operations?” A trifle misleading. They only closed “new admissions” to their Community Service Program." ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/397 "2009-09-17T15:33:50Z")
For a little humor: > **[The Daily Show with Trevor Noah | Comedy Central](https://www.cc.com/shows/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah)** > > The Daily Show is an Emmy- and Peabody Award-winning program that looks at the day’s top headlines through a sharp, reality-based lens. ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/398 "2009-09-17T15:36:19Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > I assume you wrote the headline “Acorn suspends operations?” A trifle misleading. They only closed “new admissions” to their Community Service Program." Yes, what other operations do they have, pray tell? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/399 "2009-09-17T15:48:25Z")
For even more humor… > **[Obama and Acorn](https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204518504574416833436798004)** > > James Taranto asks: Is there a case for a special prosecutor? \*Wall Street Journal \*Opinion page wonders aloud if a Special Prosecutor is not required to investigate the ties between Obama and ACORN. No, I’m not making this up! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/400 "2009-09-17T15:49:40Z")
> [@PhiloVance](#): > > Yes, what other operations do they have, pray tell? Here’s a full list: [http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12357](http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12357) Sorry, a little hard to tell the way the article’s written, but the suspension appears to refer to new admissions to the Acorn Fair Housing program, which is a subsidiary of the organization proper. Looks like they are otherwise still working diligently to destroy the country in other areas ;). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681.md?page=21)