# ACORN workers caught on tape apparently advising on child prostitution

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 11, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681 "2009-09-11T13:19:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/401 "2009-09-17T15:51:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> What problem? He did it, got caught, said “Yeah, I did it, sorry!” then climbed right back up onto the pulpit. He walked, how has he got a problem?

Yes but how can he weigh in on a case involving prostitution without his problems surfacing again. This is his chance to get on ACORN, but his history is holding him back. It must be frustrating to not be able to pile on . I think he should comment because he is an expert in the field.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/402 "2009-09-17T15:56:46Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> For even more humor…
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> [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574416833436798004.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574416833436798004.html)
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> \*Wall Street Journal \*Opinion page wonders aloud if a Special Prosecutor is not required to investigate the ties between Obama and ACORN. No, I’m not making this up!

You’d never be able to detect that the WSJ is now a Murdoch owned publication, would you?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/403 "2009-09-17T16:03:16Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> You’d never be able to detect that the WSJ is now a Murdoch owned publication, would you?

Truthfully? I can’t really tell just from the editorial page. Their preferred position has always been with their tongues up Wall Street’s bunghole…

ETA: Actually, I can’t say that. They’ve always been so far right that their toilet paper unrolls from the inside of the tube, but since NewsCorpse took over their orbit has been synchronizing with the tinfoil hat crowd more and more.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/404 "2009-09-17T16:05:32Z")

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Closer to home, Governor Tim Pawlenty, the Man Who Will Never, Ever Be King, is shining his conservative credentials by cutting off all state money going to ACORN. This bold and courageous move is muddled by the fact that ACORN is not recieving any Minnesota state money…

> **[Pawlenty: Halt state funds for ACORN community organizing group](https://www.twincities.com/2009/09/16/pawlenty-halt-state-funds-for-acorn-community-organizing-group/)**
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> Stepping up the pressure on a community organizing group already under attack nationally, Gov. Tim Pawlenty on Wednesday ordered a halt to state funding for ACORN, if possible. But a top state offi…

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**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/405 "2009-09-17T16:26:05Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> For even more humor…
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> [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574416833436798004.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574416833436798004.html)
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> \*Wall Street Journal \*Opinion page wonders aloud if a Special Prosecutor is not required to investigate the ties between Obama and ACORN. No, I’m not making this up!

What’s so strange about this? The NY Times was investigating the links between Obama and ACORN fronted groups during the election but spiked the story at the last minute. I think they claimed that they did not want to be responsible for affecting the election. They eventually published a watered down version after the election to save face. Some of the e-mails between the Times reporter and ACORN whistleblower Anita MonCrief can be found here.

[http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/28/document-drop-what-nytimes-reporter-stephanie-strom-really-knew-about-obamacorn/](http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/28/document-drop-what-nytimes-reporter-stephanie-strom-really-knew-about-obamacorn/)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/406 "2009-09-17T16:28:34Z")

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There isn’t any link between Obama and ACORN.

ETA seriously, you’re linking to Michelle Malkin? Why not just link to Hitler?

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/407 "2009-09-17T16:33:29Z")

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It is of vital importance that ACORN be stopped. An organization that has received a total of $53 million in federal funds over the last 15 years and had its funding cut by Congress at the first whiff of wrongdoing is an unstoppable juggernaut of corruption.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/408 "2009-09-17T16:34:01Z")

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> [@yorick73](#):
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> What’s so strange about this? The NY Times was investigating the links between Obama and ACORN fronted groups during the election but spiked the story at the last minute. I think they claimed that they did not want to be responsible for affecting the election. They eventually published a watered down version after the election to save face. Some of the e-mails between the Times reporter and ACORN whistleblower Anita MonCrief can be found here.
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> [http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/28/document-drop-what-nytimes-reporter-stephanie-strom-really-knew-about-obamacorn/](http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/28/document-drop-what-nytimes-reporter-stephanie-strom-really-knew-about-obamacorn/)

To save face? What does that even mean? Yo honestly think the NYTimes would not publish a story about a supremely corrupt ACORN if they had the evidence? One whistleblower does not a case make. Oh wait, I forgot, iot’s the liberal mdeia bioas…nevermind.

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**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/409 "2009-09-17T16:38:11Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> There isn’t any link between Obama and ACORN.
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> ETA seriously, you’re linking to Michelle Malkin? Why not just link to Hitler?

I guess we will see. Oh, and it’s unbecoming to refer to political opponents as Nazis…but the Left does that so welll…

At any rate, the e-mail exchange is there and this had nothing to do with Michelle Malkin.

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**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/410 "2009-09-17T16:45:32Z")

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Here’s another Michelle Malkin link in case anyone wants to read more of the e-mails.

[http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/new-york-times-e-mails22.pdf](http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/new-york-times-e-mails22.pdf)

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**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/411 "2009-09-17T16:51:27Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> To save face? What does that even mean? Yo honestly think the NYTimes would not publish a story about a supremely corrupt ACORN if they had the evidence? One whistleblower does not a case make. Oh wait, I forgot, iot’s the liberal mdeia bioas…nevermind.

I absolutely believe they would spike a story if it would help the republicans win the presidency. The NY times claimed the story was spiked because it was a tip that did not pan out.

[http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17pubed.html?\_r=3](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17pubed.html?_r=3)

Compare that to how quickly the NY times was willing to report on a rumored affair between McCain and Vicki Iseman during the election…which they later had to apologize for. Hell, they didn’t even have an e-mail exchange to back up that story!

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**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/412 "2009-09-17T16:55:52Z")

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Alinsky Rule #8: Keep the pressure on. Never let up.

More California movies.

[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551403,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551403,00.html)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/413 "2009-09-17T17:02:30Z")

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A link to a Sean Hannity transcript? Give me a fucking break.

What “pressure” do you guys think you’re applying anyway? To who?

This “Alinsky” meme is really stupid, by the way.

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**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/414 "2009-09-17T17:12:21Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> A link to a Sean Hannity transcript? Give me a fucking break.

I guess Hannity is a little Hitler too?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/415 "2009-09-17T17:16:47Z")

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Well, he did once support a genuine neo-Nazi for Congess. He’s not smart enough to be a Hitler, though. He’s more cut out to be Hitler’s little scat boy…like he is for Rupert Murdoch.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/416 "2009-09-17T17:27:31Z")

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> [@PhiloVance](#):
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> Alinsky Rule #8: Keep the pressure on. Never let up.
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> More California movies.
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> [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551403,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551403,00.html)

**Philo** , just asking here; do you have any particular thing you want to discuss in this thread? I’m under the impression that posting links with little or no comment is kind of frowned upon in this forum.

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**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/417 "2009-09-17T17:53:05Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> **Philo** , just asking here; do you have any particular thing you want to discuss in this thread? I’m under the impression that posting links with little or no comment is kind of frowned upon in this forum.

My post is my comment.  
**“None are so blind as those that will not see”**

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/418 "2009-09-17T17:53:11Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> …This “Alinsky” meme is really stupid, by the way.

Wondering about that. When did the tighty rightys find out about Saul Alinsky? When did they start to _care_ about Saul Alinsky?

I dimly recall him being quoted regarding a “news story” that Abbie Hoffman’s Yippie Party was central to organizing the Days of Rage fiasco at the Democratic Convention of 1968…

“Organize? You kidding? Those guys couldn’t organize a Hadassah luncheon!”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/419 "2009-09-17T17:58:49Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wondering about that. When did the tighty rightys find out about Saul Alinsky? When did they start to _care_ about Saul Alinsky?

When they found out Hillary the Bitch Queen did her Wellesley thesis on him, maybe.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/420 "2009-09-17T17:59:55Z")

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> [@yorick73](#):
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> Oh, and it’s unbecoming to refer to political opponents as Nazis…but the Left does that so welll…

The “feminazis”? _That_ Left?

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