# ACORN workers caught on tape apparently advising on child prostitution

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 11, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681 "2009-09-11T13:19:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/761 "2009-12-10T22:09:10Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> And if the fry cook at McDonald’s spits on your burger before putting it in the bun, he’s performing services as the representative of McDonald’s Corp. But that doesn’t mean he’s carrying out the policies of McDonald’s Corp., or that McDonald’s encourages or even remotely condones such actions on the part of its employees.
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> So that’s pretty much a bullshit line.

McDonald’s is still liable for the employee’s actions. Same with ACORN.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/762 "2009-12-10T22:13:40Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> McDonald’s is still liable for the employee’s actions. Same with ACORN.

Nonsense - McDonald’s is required by law to serve all the hamburgers they make, whether they have been spat in or not.

You could look it up!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/763 "2009-12-10T22:17:24Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> McDonald’s is still liable for the employee’s actions. Same with ACORN.

What plaintiff would ACORN be liable to?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/764 "2009-12-10T22:19:08Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Nonsense - McDonald’s is required by law to serve all the hamburgers they make, whether they have been spat in or not.

This is not a very clever response since McDonalds is, in fact, _not_ required by law to serve spat in hamburgers and ACORN _is_, in fact, required to submit all registrations.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/765 "2009-12-10T22:21:11Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> This is not a very clever response since McDonalds is, in fact, _not_ required by law to serve spat in hamburgers and ACORN _is_, in fact, required to submit all registrations.

ACORN didn’t submit any registrations.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/766 "2009-12-10T22:23:23Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Nonsense - McDonald’s is required by law to serve all the hamburgers they make, whether they have been spat in or not.
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> You could look it up!
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

ACORN has to turn in all the registrations it gets, are you ignorant of that fact? Or are you just purposely arguing something you know is incorrect?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/767 "2009-12-10T22:23:44Z")

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Have you followed the story at all, or are you just try to parse some sematic distinction that’s lost on me?

In point of fact, ACORN has submitted MANY voter registrations, and is legally forbiden from removing any fakes one.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/768 "2009-12-10T22:50:08Z")

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Well, thats just _your_ reality!

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/769 "2009-12-10T23:04:49Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Have you followed the story at all, or are you just try to parse some sematic distinction that’s lost on me?
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> In point of fact, ACORN has submitted MANY voter registrations, and is legally forbiden from removing any fakes one.

Nope, they did not.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/770 "2009-12-10T23:36:56Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Nope, they did not.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

I can’t even tell what you’re answering…your grammar sucks. No, they did not WHAT?

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/771 "2009-12-11T00:01:18Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Nope, they did not.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Would you please just say whatever it is that you are trying to not say?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/772 "2009-12-11T00:06:09Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Nope, they did not.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Please clarify. On the face of it, you are making an assertion that completely contradicts what most people who have been discussing the subject of ACORN _vis-a-vis_ voter registrations have understood to be the case. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt as to the possibility that your assertion, as written, is factually accurate.

Please be good enough to explain in what way your assertion is factually accurate. Feel free to post links to citations, but I respectfully request that you post your own explanation for _how_ any such links support your position, rather than leaving them to speak for themselves, and your audience to infer your argument.

Thank you, in advance, for your cooperation.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/773 "2009-12-11T00:18:34Z")

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Your generous optimism is a beacon to us all.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/774 "2009-12-11T00:37:15Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Nope, they did not.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Um… actually, yeah they are.

Or is that yes they did?

Whatever your assertion is, my rebuttal is the opposite.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/775 "2009-12-11T00:45:08Z")

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I hope you will all join me in mourning the apparent death of the meaning of the word “Regards”.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/776 "2009-12-11T00:50:14Z")

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‘ees yankin’ your chain, 'ee is.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/777 "2009-12-11T01:08:14Z")

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Not at all.\* I’m quite certain that Mr. **Shodan** has, up his sleeve, a perfectly cromulent set of documented facts that show his assertion to be 100% precisely factual. He is off the grid at the time of this posting, but I have no doubt that he will return and present it.

\*ETA: On reflection, I suppose I must concede that this is not inconsistent with the notion that he is, in fact, yanking our chain(s). But IME, he tends to be more careful than that, particularly when board rules might turn out to be involved.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/778 "2009-12-11T01:24:47Z")

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It’s just Shodan throwing a tantrum. He doesn’t seem to be informed enough to contribute in a more meaningful way, so this is what we get.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/779 "2009-12-11T01:39:16Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Not at all.\* I’m quite certain that Mr. **Shodan** has, up his sleeve, a perfectly cromulent set of documented facts that show his assertion to be 100% precisely factual. He is off the grid at the time of this posting, but I have no doubt that he will return and present it.

Some time ago, some poster complimented Shodan for his use of some Orwellian quote regarding denials of reality/doublethink (we are not at war with Eastasia or something like that). Since then, like an attention starved 5 year old, he has trotted it out, repeating a patently false assertion, in an attempt to gain some desperately needed attention. I suspect this is what Shodan is doing here.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acorn-workers-caught-on-tape-apparently-advising-on-child-prostitution/509681/780 "2009-12-11T01:41:47Z")

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We have a perfectly fine forum for insulting other poster over in [The BBQ Pit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/forumdisplay.php?f=5).

Leave the personal attacks out of this one.

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