# Across the entire World...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 17, 2010, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007 "2010-07-17T07:02:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/21 "2010-07-17T12:27:54Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> American workers understand this: The United Arab Emerits, The Soviet Union, Saudi Arabia, Tawain, China, North Korea, South Korea, Spain, Portugal, Austrailia, India, Japan, and ANY group of workers on the Continent of Africa are ALL willing to work for LESS than you are.

That’s an interesting point; thanks to your last thread, I learned that I’m in the top 1%. So, yeah, all glory to the status quo, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/22 "2010-07-17T12:36:44Z")

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I too love

Using the Enter

key like it’s

a fucking snare

drum. Almost like

playing a

forum port of

Patapon !

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/23 "2010-07-17T13:57:41Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> A pox on both their houses.

Have you read \*[Atlas Shrugged](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged) \*? I think you are ripe for discovering it.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/24 "2010-07-17T14:30:10Z")

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Suggest revision, before submission for grade. Maybe get an eighth grader to look it over, with special attention to what constitutes a sentence. Repetitive lists of names doth not make commentary.

If you want to be taken seriously, develop some actual points, and state them clearly. This scree sounds like the sad rantings of junior high schooler. Rage against the machine, indeed.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/25 "2010-07-17T14:47:01Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> This post actually starts to make sense if you sing it the tune of “We Didn’t Start the Fire.”

Amazing, but true. I’m tempted to make a youtube video.

aaaaaaand the temptation has passed.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/26 "2010-07-17T14:55:55Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Amazing, but true. I’m tempted to make a youtube video.
> 
> aaaaaaand the temptation has passed.

Phew. Lucky escape there, eh?

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/27 "2010-07-17T18:03:34Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Really?
> 
> LG writes something and it is chick, hip, sophisticated and screechingly “Straight Dope” to denigrate whatever **he** writes?

Bolding mine.

Huh. I thought you were a woman.

ETA: Wow, all your incoherent ranting about men is even weirder than I thought.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/28 "2010-07-17T18:49:45Z")

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Let’s see if we can help…

Call this point1:

> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Tim Geitner. Larry Sommers. Hank Paulsen. Ben Bernanke.  
> The Fed.

Now please tell us in specific terms what your opinion is on each of these. State why they are grouped together as if they have something in common. If possible support you statements with credible cites.  
Call this point2:

> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Obama ‘hiring’ George Bush’s Economic team. (And therefore endorsing Alan Greenspan and his leadership, even though his “leadership” was heading toward this impending disaster despite his sterling bona fides…)

This may actually be close to a real topic of discussion. Please expand you opinion on Obama’s current economic team and outline (what I assume you feel) are their failings. If possible support you statements with credible cites.  
Call this point3:

> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Obama going to “…change Washington..” and access by Lobbyists…and, through him, "… we’ll be going back to Government “…by the People…for the People…” except…WAIT…we haven’t…he didn’t change a thing…

Again, there may be a topic here but in sorely needs to be expnded upon in the ways outlined above.

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**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/29 "2010-07-17T19:29:59Z")

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Ok, just for a laugh I’m actually going to read every single word of the OP and try to figure out the questions and possibly give some answers.

> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> WHY is it that the Tim Geitners and the Obamas and the folks in China and the Middle East and in Russia and in China and in the British Empire keep ON deceiving their populations about what is going on in the world?

I’m assuming this is a rhetorical question, but I don’t really see what all these people have in common or what they’re lying about.

> [@](#):
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> And why do we keep giving credence to their estimations of the ‘hoi piloi’ of the world…

Another rhetorical question. And I don’t give a fuck what any of those people think of…

> [@](#):
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> We "lesser folks’…

> [@](#):
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> SUCK up every..single..explanation of the Tim Geitners in the United States of America…and every single explanation of British Petroleum about the gushing of oil into the Gulf of Mexico…

Really? I thought BP isn’t really all that popular or respected at all at the moment.

> [@](#):
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> While we watch…every. single. person. In every. single. Country. With every single access to money and power…tell us how to ‘think’ how to ‘react’ how to ‘feel’ about voting…while being convinced of, and counting on, the ‘Stupid Masses’ of EVERY country working and working and working and working to get into the six-figure demographic.

This is still part of the question?

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> Capitalism.

Is this the answer?

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> The VIRTUE of this form of Economics is to keep the Masses convinced that if they keep working Harder, Longer, and with more Focus, that 'THEY MAY TOO, ONE DAY, BECOME MILLIONAIRES,

Actually, I’m of the (not very original) opinion that most people that have enough to eat, a place to live and are otherwise reasonably secure consider the status quo (ANY status quo) to be preferable to change. I think you’ll find that most people aren’t actually trying to become millionaires.

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> Socialism won’t work.

Cite?

> [@](#):
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> Communism won’t work.

Ok, sure.

> [@](#):
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> The HARD PART is to keep the ‘Common’ folk beyond the Sarah Palins and the Mit Romneys and the Barak Obamas and the Newt Gingriche’s and the Pat Buchannans and the “Meet The Press”(es) and the Tim Geitners and the Larry Sommers and Ben Bernankes and the Alan Greenspans and the ‘Lovers of Ronald Reagan’…

This _looks_ really condescending. But I’ve got no idea what “keeping the ‘common’ folk beyond [whatever]” even means.

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> ALL of these folks deciding what is ‘right’ for the American people.

Politics is inevitable in any system larger than a handful of people. Improve it, run for office, stage a coup. Deal with it.

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> They ALL have a great big FAIL.

Meh. It’s been worse. A lot worse too.

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> Our Congress People (whomever is serving right now) are irremdiably compromised.
> 
> They have all sold themselves out in an effort to keep their ‘Small Businesses Supported by The American People In Their Senate and House Offices’ …to stay there.

What does that mean?

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> There will come a time when the folks who work physically in the houses of the wealthy and those who work on roads and in schools and on police forces who will ‘wake up’ and see they are being ‘screwed’ by their ‘betters.’

Even the Russian revolution didn’t work that way.

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> Jesus Christ Citizens!

They are?!

> [@](#):
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> Can you imagine in YOUR job that you can MANDATE, legallyyour “Benefits”?
> 
> Your Heallth Insurance? Your Retirement Income? Your Wages? Your Vacations? Your days-on-the-job?

Yes. I do. It’s called “starting your own company”. It’s not all it’s cracked up to be.

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> THIS is what your Representatives in Congress can do.

Of course not.

> [@](#):
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> They have ‘Small Businesses’ in their Offices in Congress.
> 
> And WE support them

What is this again?

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> The Bastards ‘work’ about 120 days a year and have US, the TAXPAYERS, support their Offices, their Privileges, their Entitelments… and they TRULY BELIEVE that they DESERVE the billions of dollars that we ( the taxpayers) pay into their Offices in Congress.

You do realize that taxes aren’t put directly in the packets of the politicians, right?

> [@](#):
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> They work and work and work and work to HANG ON TO their ‘Small Businesses’ in the Congress.

Again: what?!

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> Their Staffs (paid for by the Taxpayers) their Offices (paid for by the Taxpayers)

Tax is what pays for government. Any suggestions to change that?

> [@](#):
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> Well…
> 
> Who ARE these folks?  
> What are the ‘Deals’ they are making with the huge multi-national Corporations that will ‘keep them in Congress’?

See above. But, well, you guys did vote them in.

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> We are getting screwed.
> 
> We simple, common, every-day folks who pay taxes and look in shock upon the ultra rich who seem to be making decisions for all of us, the World over.

Yeah yeah yeah.

> [@](#):
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> Capitalism.
> 
> What BETTER way to convince folks that ‘YOU, TOO can become a Billionaire!’
> 
> Let’s spread this out, all across the Globe…
> 
> Work. Work. Work. Become more Productive. Word HARDER. Work FASTER. Work more Productively.
> 
> In the ‘Eyes’ of these effers…there is no other way to keep the masses more productive and more “Hungry” than Capitalism.

Sad thing is, they’re probably right. Except about the “Hungy” part. That’s clearly wrong.

> [@](#):
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> ‘They’ (the Masses) will work longer and harder and with more passion if they feel that they, too, can have a ‘good’ boat…a ‘nice’ house…and 'beat their effin “RIVALS” in the “POSSESSION” wars.

Don’t humans suck? Are you proposing some kind of genetic program?

> [@](#):
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> American workers understand this: The United Arab Emerits, The Soviet Union, Saudi Arabia, Tawain, China, North Korea, South Korea, Spain, Portugal, Austrailia, India, Japan, and ANY group of workers on the Continent of Africa are ALL willing to work for LESS than you are.

Yup. Well, except for the UAE and Saudi Arabia - those guys don’t have to work at all.

> [@](#):
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> These privileged “Representatives” (for whom their offices and staffs are paid for by the American People every single day of their representation) don’t seem to “get it.”

You think they don’t know that? What are you talking about now?

> [@](#):
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> They spend 80% of their effing time trying to raise funds to stay “In Power” in whatever office they hold.

So, they’re average citizens. Vote in better ones.

> [@](#):
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> WTF?
> 
> They know what a good deal they have.
> 
> Bernie Sanders.  
> Al Franken  
> Al Grayson  
> Elizabeth Warren
> 
> Perhaps these four people have the best interests of the American people in mind.
> 
> Even THEY know how much the poor American taxpayers are being screwed.

.  
Ok, whatever, if you say so.

> [@](#):
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> Obam.  
> Mitt Romney.  
> Newt Ginrich.  
> Sarah Palin.  
> (And WHOMEVER challenges Obama…)
> 
> The “BAD GUYS” are: Alan Greenspan; Ben Bernanke, Larry Summers; Tim Geitner; Hank Paulsen…and yet…THESE are the men who continue to determine the Finances of this Country.
> 
> Wake up.  
> Wonder.  
> Get these effers OUT of our daily lives.

Yeah yeah yeah.

> [@](#):
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> Does anyone wonder why Tim Geitner does NOT want Elizabeth Warren advocating for the Populace?

I don’t know who these people are. So: no.

> [@](#):
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> EFF these multi million/billionaire folks.
> 
> Let’s get back to basics.

Which is what, exactly?

I’ve seen way too many assholes (in and out of politics) lately that stir up a lot of shit about how we’re all headed for hell and that have no fucking alternative or strategy to correct it. All they ever do is blame the other guy. Come up with a useful idea. Find someone else with useful ideas. Whatever. But until you do, you’re just a ranting old fart and the best you can hope for is scaring people into thinking you’re the one who can see the apocalypse. Until they realize that you’re not actually doing anything about it. Even then, you need some kind of coherent message.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/30 "2010-07-17T19:39:13Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Really?
> 
> LG writes something and it is chick, hip, sophisticated and screechingly “Straight Dope” to denigrate whatever he writes?

Well, that and his habit of referring to himself in the third person.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/31 "2010-07-17T19:47:56Z")

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**lurking guest** , since you’re getting upset at people mocking you, I’ll give you some serious concrit: your writing style is extremely difficult to follow. It closely resembles free-form poetry. I have no idea what your point is, and I don’t feel like taking the time to figure it out. If you wrote in a more coherent manner…well, people would probably still mock you, but it would be because of your content and not your rather bizarre and unreadable posting style.

If you can’t figure out how to write your posts in a way that is legible to other people, may I kindly suggest that the SDMB may not be the best place for your contributions? You might want to look into blogging.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/32 "2010-07-17T19:49:27Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> Really?
> 
> LG writes something and it is chick, hip, sophisticated and screechingly “Straight Dope” to denigrate whatever he writes?

I tried but your wall of text rolled a 20 for a critical hit.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/33 "2010-07-17T20:08:42Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> If you can’t figure out how to write your posts in a way that is legible to other people, may I kindly suggest that the SDMB may not be the best place for your contributions? You might want to look into blogging.

Or therapy.

Or drugs. Either start or stop taking them heavily.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/34 "2010-07-17T20:19:43Z")

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It’s almost like the top 1% in the world are screwing us all over.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/35 "2010-07-17T20:21:17Z")

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We’re not doing it maliciously, we just _need_ minions.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/36 "2010-07-17T21:08:23Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> That’s an interesting point; thanks to your last thread, I learned that I’m in the top 1%. So, yeah, all glory to the status quo, I guess.

After citations were posted in the last thread proving that most Americans make enough money that they were in the top 1% (that is, you DON’T need to be a multimillionaire, as LG purported to believe), our esteemed colleague scurried away like a frightened puppy and refused to post in the thread any more.

**lurking guest** - do you concede that most Americans are in the top 1%, and that you don’t need to be a multimillionaire to fall into that category? If not, how do you explain the citations that were given in the other thread?

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**Author:** ![Caveat\_lector\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@Caveat\_lector\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caveat_lector_1)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/37 "2010-07-17T21:24:02Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> After citations were posted in the last thread proving that most Americans make enough money that they were in the top 1% (that is, you DON’T need to be a multimillionaire, as LG purported to believe), our esteemed colleague scurried away like a frightened puppy and refused to post in the thread any more.

I don’t suppose you could direct me to those posts? They sound interesting to read.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/38 "2010-07-17T22:27:32Z")

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The thread is [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=569758)

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/39 "2010-07-18T00:05:41Z")

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> [@lurking\_guest](#):
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> American workers understand this: The United Arab Emerits, The Soviet Union, Saudi Arabia, Tawain, China, North Korea, South Korea, Spain, Portugal, Austrailia, India, Japan, and ANY group of workers on the Continent of Africa are ALL willing to work for LESS than you are.

I’m sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but the Soviet Union doesn’t exist anymore. I thought you should know, it being one of the biggest events in human history and all.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/across-the-entire-world/547007/40 "2010-07-18T00:10:57Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> I’m sorry to have to be the one to break this to you, but the Soviet Union doesn’t exist anymore. I thought you should know, it being one of the biggest events in human history and all.

Not only that, but The Culture Club broke up!

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