# ACTA (Proposed anti-counterfeiting treaty) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 7, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acta-proposed-anti-counterfeiting-treaty/545814 "2010-07-07T03:41:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wisthekiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/2acd7d/32.png) [@Wisthekiller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wisthekiller)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acta-proposed-anti-counterfeiting-treaty/545814/1 "2010-07-07T03:41:36Z")
I wasn’t sure if this should be in the Pit or here, I figure more people look here and I also wanted opinions on it. How many people are for the ACTA deal. Basically internet piracy will become a felony, IP providers will be held responsible, the providers will monitor all the data that goes in and out of your computer. Random search of your laptops and other items that hold digital data may will be legal without any reason of suspician, they can copy your entire hard drive to search. If you are ACCUSED 3 times by a copyright holder being sent to jail without a trial is the punishment. Don’t worry I’m not a troll or some radical political rebel. Even those against privacy may think this is just plain wrong, like I do. Feel free to look it up if you don’t believe any of this, give me some opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acta-proposed-anti-counterfeiting-treaty/545814/2 "2010-07-10T07:29:43Z")
According to the [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=451) the OP is exaggerating only slightly. I note this from their page about the proposed treaty’s most troubling provisions: > [@EFF website](#): > > # Require Internet service providers (ISPs) to disconnect individuals accused (not convicted) of repeated copyright infringement; > > # Require ISPs to hand over their subscribers’ identities to copyright owners without any due process or judicial oversight; > > # Require ISPs to make potentially expensive modifications to their networks in an effort to prevent copyright infringement; > > # Prohibit the U.S. Congress from reforming the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which makes it a crime to defeat copy protection even when making a copy is perfectly legal; > > # Require all countries to implement DMCA-like laws for their own populations, without the benefit of fair use or other legal exceptions that provide a modicum of protection for speech; > > # Threaten potential innovators with outrageous financial penalties for copyright infringement; and > > # Criminalize even non-commercial uses of copyrighted materials Although I don’t see anything about jail for three-time suspects in the [current draft version](http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2010/april/tradoc_146029.pdf), it’s still scary stuff just going by what the EFF and numerous other advocacy groups seem to be saying. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acta-proposed-anti-counterfeiting-treaty/545814/3 "2010-07-10T07:53:04Z")
Moving to GD. ---
**Author:** ![palacheck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@palacheck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palacheck)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acta-proposed-anti-counterfeiting-treaty/545814/4 "2010-07-10T10:07:41Z")
This will of course be watered down come final draft, and the opposition will think they’ve walked away the winners. ISTM to be a sneaky way of sending harsh U.S. copyright law to countries with harsher methods of enforcement. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/acta-proposed-anti-counterfeiting-treaty/545814/5 "2010-07-10T14:56:47Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > According to the [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=451) the OP is exaggerating only slightly. I note this from their page about the proposed treaty’s most troubling provisions: > > Although I don’t see anything about jail for three-time suspects in the [current draft version](http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2010/april/tradoc_146029.pdf), it’s still scary stuff just going by what the EFF and numerous other advocacy groups seem to be saying. How many claims on the EFF site are correct according to the actual document?