# Active shooter at MSU February 13, 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 14, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750 "2023-02-14T02:33:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/1 "2023-02-14T02:33:43Z")
Another mass shooting event in America. > ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/2 "2023-02-14T02:47:15Z")
CNN is reporting multiple injuries. > **[Multiple injuries reported after shots fired at Michigan State University,...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/us/michigan-state-university-shots-fired/index.html)** > > Multiple injuries were reported after shots were fired at Michigan State University, prompting shelter in place orders amid a search for a suspect Monday evening, campus police said. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/3 "2023-02-14T03:17:56Z")
Here’s one of our local [television stations](https://www.wilx.com/) if you want to follow along. Shooting first reported at Berkey Hall, later at the IM East. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/4 "2023-02-14T03:27:00Z")
That CNN and MSNBC quickly went to nonstop coverage, despite minimal information, is a very bad sign to me. Unfortunately, I understand in my own way; I was a student there when this happened, and had taken physics the previous semester, although my professor and my TA, who was very well-liked, were not directly involved. > **[University of Iowa shooting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Iowa_shooting)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > The University of Iowa shooting was a mass shooting that occurred in Iowa City, Iowa, on November 1, 1991. Gang Lu, a 28-year-old former graduate student at the University of Iowa, killed three members of the Physics and Astronomy Department faculty, an Associate Vice President for Academic Affairs, and a fellow student, then seriously injured another student working at the university's campus, before committing suicide. > Gang Lu (Chinese: 卢刚; pinyi... ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/5 "2023-02-14T03:45:23Z")
My younger son is the chef for the basketball team. He worked in the union building last year. He’s home, safe, 15 min. off campus locked, lights low. I hope they catch this asshole before more carnage. He was on campus an hour or less before this started. 🥺 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/6 "2023-02-14T03:45:57Z")
You’ve got kids sheltering in place there that had to shelter at Oxford High School just over a year ago. I can’t even imagine the mental and emotional trauma they’ve experienced and are experiencing again. ETA: Not to mention the anguish their parents are going through yet again. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/7 "2023-02-14T03:46:19Z")
The campus will be shut down for 48 hours, make of that what you will but it seems rather ominous. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/8 "2023-02-14T03:49:33Z")
WDIV in Detroit is reporting they’ve got someone in custody. ETA: False report. Subject still likely at-large. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/9 "2023-02-14T04:02:05Z")
At first, I heard that they were looking for a short-statured black man, but now I’m just hearing a person with a mask. Maybe the mask was black or brown, and that made a witness think the person was black? ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/10 "2023-02-14T04:37:06Z")
According to [the police Twitter account](https://twitter.com/msupolice), the subject is a short, Black male. There’s a photo of him there, though you can’t really see his face. From [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/michigan-state-university-shooting-updates-2-13-23/index.html): > At least five people were wounded in the shooting Monday night at Michigan State University, Interim Deputy Police Chief Chris Rozman said Monday at a news conference. > > Some of the victims have “life-threatening injuries,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/11 "2023-02-14T04:42:36Z")
I’m hearing three are dead. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/12 "2023-02-14T05:19:59Z")
Twitter saying (for what its worth) that the suspect shot himself as police approached. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/13 "2023-02-14T05:29:42Z")
Police presser right now, saying the suspect shot himself. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/14 "2023-02-14T05:43:37Z")
Yes, CNN saying 3 dead, 5 injured. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/15 "2023-02-14T05:47:15Z")
At least no one else will be hurt or killed … this time. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/16 "2023-02-14T12:11:53Z")
> **[Gunman kills 3, then himself at Michigan State University](https://apnews.com/article/colleges-and-universities-michigan-education-shootings-153ab68bc4f108c2019bb138de2dc8fb?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01)** > > EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) — A gunman who opened fire at Michigan State University killed three people and wounded five, setting off an hourslong manhunt as frightened students hid in classrooms and cars. Why don’t these idiots start with themselves? According to AP, the gunman was 43 years old and had no connection to the school. Just random shit. So crazy. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/17 "2023-02-14T13:23:53Z")
This is insane. With the Oxford school shooting just over a year ago, it’s feeling very close to home. I have a son in high school who will be going to college not very long from now. My heart goes out to all of the victims. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/18 "2023-02-14T13:34:07Z")
I think the system worked pretty well last night. The response was massive from many local police and fire departments as well as the state police and they quickly made sure the students and staff were protected. The information provided was as timely and transparent as could be expected, the suspect was approached within hours and took his own life. Classes and activities at MSU and all local schools were cancelled today out of an abundance of caution which may seem overly cautious but I believe when there is any doubt, choose the safest course of action. Odd that the suspect had no ties to the school, perhaps they’ll figure out the motivation perhaps not. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/19 "2023-02-14T15:40:44Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think the system worked pretty well last night. Whilst I agree that the response was good, there were still deaths and casualties. Surely a far better system is to discuss gun control. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750/20 "2023-02-14T15:43:49Z")
I absolutely agree and I’ve always been in favor of strict gun laws. Too many deaths for sure, but given the constraints of current law the response was good. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-msu-february-13-2023/979750.md?page=2)