# Active shooter at Ohio State University

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 28, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282 "2016-11-28T15:46:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/1 "2016-11-28T15:46:24Z")

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Developing story- OSU says run, hide, fight. Cnn reporting that 7 people have been taken to hospitals.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/2 "2016-11-28T15:52:52Z")

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Here is a link.

> **[Ohio State University: Attacker killed, 11 hospitalized after campus attack |...](https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/us/ohio-state-university-active-shooter/index.html)**
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> An attack on Ohio State University's Columbus campus ended in less than two minutes with the person responsible dead and 11 people injured, officials said.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/3 "2016-11-28T15:57:38Z")

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Local news isn’t reporting much more. There’s lots of buzz in my office just north of Columbus. Many co-workers have kids there.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/4 "2016-11-28T15:57:58Z")

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I hope they catch the shooter quickly.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/5 "2016-11-28T16:09:34Z")

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I hope the media doesn’t show the perpetrator’s name or face. We don’t want to reward him by making him famous.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/6 "2016-11-28T16:10:34Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> I hope the media doesn’t show the perpetrator’s name or face. We don’t want to reward him by making him famous.

I was just about to post this. You know the media is going to make him out to be an evil hero.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/7 "2016-11-28T16:20:27Z")

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It looks like it’s still ongoing. 8 injured so far seems pretty concrete. This is the time of the incident that the police are a lot more interested in dealing with the situation than informing the press. Lots of misinformation starts being floated as they report tweets as fact.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/8 "2016-11-28T16:21:55Z")

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Live local coverage [here](http://www.10tv.com/article/reports-active-shooter-ohio-state-campus-updated).

Currently stating 9 injured, one suspect dead.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/9 "2016-11-28T16:23:59Z")

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Now cnn has reported one suspect has been killed.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/10 "2016-11-28T16:34:33Z")

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Interesting advice to the students.

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> Buckeye Alert: Active Shooter on campus. Run Hide Fight. Watts Hall. 19th and College.  
> — OSU Emergency Mngmnt (@OSU\_EMFP)

What do they mean by “run hide fight?” (I get the “run” and “hide” part).

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/11 "2016-11-28T16:37:47Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Interesting advice to the students.
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> What do they mean by “run hide fight?” (I get the “run” and “hide” part).

It’s the order of operations for what to do in a shooter situation.

IF you can get away, get away and get safe.

If you can’t get away, hide so the shooter doesn’t find you.

If you can’t do either of those, tackling the shooter is a low percentage play but it’s better than standing in front of them waiting to get shot.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/12 "2016-11-28T16:39:03Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> What do they mean by “run hide fight?” (I get the “run” and “hide” part).

I assume that means run away if you can, if you can’t run then hide, if discovered while hiding then fight back.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/13 "2016-11-28T16:48:17Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I was just about to post this. You know the media is going to make him out to be an evil hero.

What? Do you mean the fringe media, like blogs and twitter? If not, when has the mainstream media ever done this? I mean, even if you can’t the possibility of speculating that the Columbine killers were bullied, I’ve never seen these murderers portrayed as anything but abhorrent freaks.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/14 "2016-11-28T16:54:14Z")

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Scene is secure, classes cancelled.

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**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/15 "2016-11-28T16:54:21Z")

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> [@joyfool](#):
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> What? Do you mean the fringe media, like blogs and twitter? If not, when has the mainstream media ever done this? I mean, even if you can’t the possibility of speculating that the Columbine killers were bullied, I’ve never seen these murderers portrayed as anything but abhorrent freaks.

Abhorrent freaks whose name and picture are displayed on every TV news show, every social media outlet, and every radio program (well, not the picture) for a month.

Some people just want fame, don’t care how they get it.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/16 "2016-11-28T17:14:05Z")

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Its scary.

Also, as a side note, a VERY SPECIAL THANK-YOU to YAHOO NEWS…

… for reporting this as the [Top](https://www.yahoo.com/) headline…

… and listing as the second story Immediately Under it,  
“[The Top Five Best Selling Handguns of 2016](https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/7f773ad6-5828-3e92-b467-591b381f9198/ss_the-5-best-selling-handguns.html)”.

**That’s Fucking Inappropriate, You Assholes…**

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/17 "2016-11-28T17:15:18Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Interesting advice to the students.
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> What do they mean by “run hide fight?” (I get the “run” and “hide” part).

There are active shooter drills in school. It’s the new “Duck and Cover.” [Here](https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/active_shooter_pocket_card_508.pdf)\* is a pamphlet from the Department of Homeland Security.

\*Warning: PDF! Everyone panic!

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/18 "2016-11-28T17:24:37Z")

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A few nights ago I dreamt there was an active shooter on my campus and I was shot in the thigh ☹ we had a campus active shooter “Run, Hide, Fight” drill last month, it’s sick and terrifying that this is a new normal for schools.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/19 "2016-11-28T17:37:19Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> I hope the media doesn’t show the perpetrator’s name or face. We don’t want to reward him by making him famous.

The shooter is dead. Nothing can reward him now.

I hear this logic a lot, but it doesn’t make sense to me. There are so many shooters that for most of them, any fame is fleeting. Plus, most of them end up dead.

Clearly, nobody is inspired to do these things by a realistic assessment of the outcome. Is there evidence that a media blackout prevents future shootings? Should we also avoid news coverage of other crimes, or at least crimes with a psychological component? That’s a serious question; I don’t know.

I can see real benefits for authorities in controlling information, but I don’t agree that it benefits the community as a whole. As a grown-up, I don’t appreciate information being withheld from me for my protection.

(and my dad went to OSU ☹ )

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/active-shooter-at-ohio-state-university/773282/20 "2016-11-28T17:43:09Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> Abhorrent freaks whose name and picture are displayed on every TV news show, every social media outlet, and every radio program (well, not the picture) for a month.
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> Some people just want fame, don’t care how they get it.

That’s all very true. However, that does not equate to “hero,” evil or otherwise. That’s just making money to a gawking, morbid and nosy public.

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