# Actor credit weirdness

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 25, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441 "2010-01-25T23:27:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/1 "2010-01-25T23:27:21Z")

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While watching _The X-Files_ this weekend, the episode titled “Invocation” spurred my girlfriend on to check IMDb for something, and she noticed that there is [no credit on IMDb for the actors who played Billy Underwood](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0751143/).

This tweaked my curiosity because I had seen their names (Ryan and Kyle Pepi) in the opening credits. They have [a page on Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_and_Kyle_Pepi). They’re listed as playing Billy on [the X-Files Wiki](http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/Billy_Underwood).

Here’s where it really gets strange, though: Ryan Pepi has no IMDb listing at all that I can find. Kyle Pepi is listed as the birth name of [Alycia Stark](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0672514/bio), who is listed as being Alycia Stark’s twin brother, mother of Kyle and Ryan Pepi, son of Scott Pepi and Alycia Stark, stepson of Peri Pepi, and grandson of Zadie.

WTF?

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/2 "2010-01-26T02:35:43Z")

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17 seems a little young for a transgendered person, but not by much.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/3 "2010-01-26T05:54:11Z")

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You are aware that IMDb takes user submitted content, right?

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/4 "2010-01-26T15:56:36Z")

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I’ll try to shed some light:

I believe that “Alycia Pepi” is indeed the mother of Ryan and Kyle Pepi. She is also about 40. The DOB on IMDB is that of the twin boys. The biographical trivia info is all messed up.

> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> [My girlfriend] on to check IMDb for something, and she noticed that there is no credit on IMDb for the actors who played Billy Underwood

That’s not all that unusual. Up until a few years ago, IMDB did not allow one-off guest appearances in TV programs. Also, they only showed a combined cast list of regulars and semi-regulars–none for individual episodes. They changed that policy so that now each episode has a complete cast list for the regulars.

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> This tweaked my curiosity because I had seen their names (Ryan and Kyle Pepi) in the opening credits.

Yeah, but, again, IMDB, unlike a lot of other websites who maintain cast and production credits, would not have allowed that credit as it was a one-off guest appearance. Back in those days, to be eligible to have an actor’s name added to the database, you pretty much had to have one of three qualifications:

a) you were credited in a non-series title (movie/tv special/documentary)  
b) you were a main cast (listed in opening credits) of a tv series  
c) you were someone who was so really well known that you were granted an exception

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> Ryan Pepi has no IMDb listing at all that I can find. Kyle Pepi is listed as the birth name of Alycia Stark, who is listed as being Alycia Stark’s twin brother, mother of Kyle and Ryan Pepi, son of Scott Pepi and Alycia Stark, stepson of Peri Pepi, and grandson of Zadie.  
> WTF?

See my beginning note. That info is really bad. They should have their names added, and have the trivia corrected. Are you **sure** that the twins received an onscreen credit?

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/5 "2010-01-26T16:15:54Z")

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And [here’s](http://www.ripoffreport.com/Dead-Beat-Moms/Alycia-Pepi-Alycia-G/alycia-pepi-alycia-gaskill-87cm8.htm) a blurb about the mom of the twins.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/6 "2010-01-26T17:23:23Z")

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> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#):
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> Are you **sure** that the twins received an onscreen credit?

Yep, and it was in the front credits. And if you follow the link to Wikipedia from my OP, you’ll see that they’ve been in lots of other stuff (to the extent that we can trust Wikipedia, of course). They simply don’t have entries in the IMDb database.

I did finally figure out how to jump through the various hoops of IMDb’s “correct something on this page” form to report that they have a major error.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/7 "2010-01-26T17:40:56Z")

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As someone who uses the IMDb a lot, thanks for taking the time to correct erronious information. That sure does make for a more pleasant, and accurate, experience.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/8 "2010-01-26T17:56:35Z")

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To further complicate things, their wiki indicates they played “Jackie Dunphy” in some movie I can’t remember. But that movie lists “Tommy Bone” as the actor, and that’s his only credit. Possibly a made-up name for the twins. Possibly the wiki is incorrect. Possibly they play “Jackie Dunphy” at a different age. (Check out the last history update, when you get a chance.) I’ve never seen the movie or the ep of “X-Files” to know if they were the same person.

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**Author:** ![smaje1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@smaje1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smaje1)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/9 "2010-01-26T19:52:42Z")

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Quick hijack - be wary trusting IMDB info!

As BigT mentioned, IMDB accepts user-submitted content. While I believe they make a good effort to verify information, things slip past. I’ve seen false info posted under the “trivia” section for a show I once worked on.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/10 "2010-01-26T21:16:25Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> Yep, and it was in the front credits. And if you follow the link to Wikipedia from my OP, you’ll see that they’ve been in lots of other stuff (to the extent that we can trust Wikipedia, of course). They simply don’t have entries in the IMDb database.
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> I did finally figure out how to jump through the various hoops of IMDb’s “correct something on this page” form to report that they have a major error.

Good luck. IMDb has combined credits for two people, one of whom was a personal acquaintance of mine and is a good 15 years older than the more famous actress with which she shares her name. I’ve tried multiple times to correct it, complete with substantiating links, and nothing was ever done. I finally realized it wasn’t that important, as the person I knew is no longer doing film work, but I keep it in mind whenever I use IMDb as an information source.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/11 "2010-01-26T21:26:16Z")

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Hey, **TWDuke** , if you care to, pm me the names to split. I should be able to take care of it.

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**Author:** ![rypepi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@rypepi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rypepi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/12 "2010-07-01T18:43:14Z")

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alright so this is legit, im ryan pepi and i am mentioned in xfiles opening credits but not in the ending. i played dunphy when i was around 3 years old in outside providence. Alycia stark is my moms new name (she got remarried) her maiden name is gaskill and she had the name pepi with my dad. zadie is my moms dad…  
we played the young version of dunphy in the beginning scene and xmas scene of outside providence so that explains it.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/13 "2010-07-01T19:49:44Z")

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Since this thread got resurrected, I’ll take the opportunity before it gets locked down to acknowledge that the problem I referred to in post 10 was eventually corrected, thanks to **Snake-Hips**.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/14 "2010-07-01T20:41:45Z")

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> [@rypepi](#):
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> alright so this is legit, im ryan pepi and i am mentioned in xfiles opening credits but not in the ending. i played dunphy when i was around 3 years old in outside providence. Alycia stark is my moms new name (she got remarried) her maiden name is gaskill and she had the name pepi with my dad. zadie is my moms dad..  
> we played the young version of dunphy in the beginning scene and xmas scene of outside providence so that explains it.

This is almost as cool as the time [I got Brad Dourif to explain what was up with all the hand gestures he made in _Dune_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10147968&postcount=3).

Thanks, Ryan, for dropping by and clearing that up!

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/15 "2010-07-01T20:50:11Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> This is almost as cool as the time [I got Brad Dourif to explain what was up with all the hand gestures he made in _Dune_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10147968&postcount=3).

Yeah, but according to [the last post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10158849&postcount=14) in that thread, Dourif’s explanation was BS. (I don’t know which one is correct. I haven’t read the book in a long, long, time and don’t intend to do so again.)

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-credit-weirdness/526441/16 "2010-07-01T20:58:07Z")

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I’ve never ruled out the possibility that Dourif’s ego led to some selective memory. What I specifically thought was cool was that I had posted a thread to the SDMB which no one was interested in providing a good answer for and wound up getting the (okay, _an_) answer straight from the horse’s mouth.

That’s cool to me. 🆒
