# Actor playing non-cameo part in different versions of same film **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193 "2015-03-04T13:08:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/21 "2015-03-04T14:44:51Z")
**Robert Mitchum** as **Max Cady** and **Lt. Elgart** in **Cape Fear** ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/22 "2015-03-04T14:46:45Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > All this talk of Charlton Heston and I leave out the case where he fits – he was Taylor in the 1968 **Planet of the Apes** , and finally got to wear the Ape makeup himself as Zaius in the 2001 Burton remake. The Wikipedia page calls it a Cameo, but he’s got a minutes-long speaking part, so it’s more than the walk-ons I had in mind when stipulating in the OP\> > > I didn’t see Shaft, either, so I don’t know. I mentioned Maverick above. Roundtree actually plays the same role in both ‘Shafts’. Sam Jackson is playing Roundtree’s relative. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/23 "2015-03-04T14:51:19Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Not quite the same thing – he played different characters in different episodes of the TV show **MASH** , but they weren’t versions of each other. > If we wanted to do actors who played different characters in the same TV series we could do an entire thread – Barbara Eden in T Dream of Jeannie, Elizabeth Montgomery in Bewtiched, and so on. But they’re not playing different parts in remakes of the same drama or episode. I included Harry Morgan since, unlike your examples, he wasn’t playing an offshoot version of himself (cousin, robot, doppleganger) ala Patty Duke in her TV series. He played two distinct unrelated characters within the story arc of the series. Your examples are somewhat tongue-in-cheek so I thought Morgan just might get a pass for this little exercise. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/24 "2015-03-04T14:57:10Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > I included Harry Morgan since, unlike your examples, he wasn’t playing an offshoot version of himself (cousin, robot, doppleganger) ala Patty Duke in her TV series. He played two distinct unrelated characters within the story arc of the series. Your examples are somewhat tongue-in-cheek so I thought Morgan just might get a pass for this little exercise. ?? I have no idea what you’re talking about. My examples aren’t tongue-in-cheek, and no one is playing a cousin, robot, or doppelganger in any of them. Your example is completely unlike anything I’ve suggested. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/25 "2015-03-04T15:03:34Z")
William Conrad played Leiningen in the radio adaptation of Carl Stephenson’s _Leiningen and the Ants_ in the radio series _Escape_ in 1948, then again in the series _Suspense_ in 1957. But when they made the movie version in 1954, **The Naked Jungle** , Charlton Heston played the role. William Conrad played the commissioner. I think that Conrad was a victim of his girth. His voice is superb, and he could play tough yet sympathetic characters on the radio, but when people saw him, they thought he was too fat for a leading role. It happened not only with Leiningen, but also with **Gunsmoke**. Conrad played Marshall Dillon on the radio from 1952 to 1961, but when the series moved to TV in 1955 they got Tall, slim James Arness for the part. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/26 "2015-03-04T16:19:34Z")
[quote=“CalMeacham, post:1, topic:714193”] 1.) Michael Caine playing Milo Tindle in the 1972 version and Andrew Wyke in the 2007 version of **Sleuth** Thus making him the only actor I know of to have played all the parts in any movie James Whitmore played all the roles in **Give Him Hell, Harry**. He also got an Oscar nomination, making it, like the original film of **Sleuth** , one of the few films where the entire cast was nominated. Lon Chaney starred in both the silent and sound versions of **The Unholy Three** ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/27 "2015-03-04T16:21:50Z")
[quote=“RealityChuck, post:26, topic:714193”] > [@CalMeacham](#): > > 1.) Michael Caine playing Milo Tindle in the 1972 version and Andrew Wyke in the 2007 version of **Sleuth** > > Thus making him the only actor I know of to have played all the parts in any movie > > James Whitmore played all the roles in **Give Him Hell, Harry**. He also got an Oscar nomination, making it, like the original film of **Sleuth** , one of the few films where the entire cast was nominated. > > Lon Chaney starred in both the silent and sound versions of **The Unholy Three** But he played the same part in both, so it’s inappropriate for this thread. (I already mentioned it in the Dinklage thread) ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/28 "2015-03-04T16:42:37Z")
I’d think that most classic horror stars would qualify. E.g., Lon Chaney, Jr. played the Monster in the Ghost of Frankenstein and the Wolf Man in Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man. Boris Karloff played the Monster in Frankenstein, but in House of Frankenstein he was the mad doctor. Universal shuffled their guys around like cards. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/29 "2015-03-04T16:53:58Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’d think that most classic horror stars would qualify. > > E.g., Lon Chaney, Jr. played the Monster in the Ghost of Frankenstein and the Wolf Man in Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man. Boris Karloff played the Monster in Frankenstein, but in House of Frankenstein he was the mad doctor. > > Universal shuffled their guys around like cards. True, but the examples you gives aren’t for actors playing different parts in versions of the same story. House of Frankenstein isn’t a version of Frankenstein, and The Ghost of Frankenstein isn’t Frankenstein Meets the WolfMan (nor The Mummy’s Hand, for that matter). I can’t think of a single one of the Universal films tat qualifies, in fact. To fit this thread, you’d have to have someone who played a part in Universal’s Frankenstein and, say, the Hammer Curse of Frankenstein. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/30 "2015-03-04T17:01:36Z")
Here’s another example: Dean Stockwell played Wilbur Whately in the 1970 version of **The Dunwich Horror**. In the 2009 TV movie he played Dr. Henry Armitage. (and they’re BOTH terrible adaptations. Maybe they should try it without Stockwell, but I don’t think he’s the problem.) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/31 "2015-03-04T17:03:07Z")
Speaking of Michael Caine… He played the lead role in the brilliant, noirish British gangster film _ **Get Carter** _, and a large but lesser role in Sly Stallone’s terrible remake. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/32 "2015-03-04T17:05:27Z")
Not quite the same thing (mixing in a different genre), but the great Colm Wilkinson played Jean Valjean on stage in the original London production of _ **Les Miserables.** _ Hugh Jackman got the role in the movie version, but Wilkinson got to play the kindly bishop who sets Valjean on the road to redemption. ---
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Also not the same thing but interesting… The two Sherlocks, Jonny Lee Miller and Benedict Cumberbatch, were in a stage version of Frankenstein together. They switched off between the two lead roles on alternating performance days. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/34 "2015-03-04T17:14:46Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > **Robert Mitchum** as **Max Cady** and **Lt. Elgart** in **Cape Fear** Gregory Peck was in the remake too, but I don’t know if his role was substantial or just a cameo. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/35 "2015-03-04T17:16:29Z")
Faye Dunaway was the heroine of the original version of _ **The Thomas Crown Affair** _ with Steve McQueen. Her role in the Pierce Brosnan remake was much smaller (she played Brosnan’s psychiatrist), but she was still memorably funny and charming. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193/36 "2015-03-04T17:16:40Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Also not the same thing but interesting… > > The two Sherlocks, Jonny Lee Miller and Benedict Cumberbatch, were in a stage version of Frankenstein together. They switched off between the two lead roles on alternating performance days. Anthony Quinn and Laurence Olivier switched their roles (Henry II and Thomas Becket) regularly during the initial Broadway run of **Becket** in 1960 > **[Becket](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becket)** > > Becket or The Honour of God (French: Becket ou l'honneur de Dieu), often shortened to Becket, is a 1959 stage play written in French by Jean Anouilh. It is a depiction of the conflict between Thomas Becket and King Henry II of England leading to Becket's assassination in 1170. It contains many historical inaccuracies, which the author acknowledged. > Anouilh's interpretation of the historical story, though often ironic, is more straightforward than T. S. Eliot's 1935 play on the same subject, Murd... ---
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a recently made TV movie of [The Saint](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2569088/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3)has both Roger Moore and Ian Ogilvy in the cast. Both of them played the Saint in earlier TV series. Their roles look to be more than mere cameos. It remains unsold and unbroadcast so far. Patrick Troughton was the first actor to play [Robin Hood](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423726/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_166)in a TV series. Later, as a character actor he made numerous guest appearences playing various roles in the [Richard Greene series](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047706/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_128). ---
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> [@BubbaDog](#): > > **Robert Mitchum** as **Max Cady** and **Lt. Elgart** in **Cape Fear** Gregory Peck and Martin Balsam did the same thing in the “Cape Fear” remake. ---
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> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Not quite the same thing – he played different characters in different episodes of the TV show **MASH** , but they weren’t versions of each other. Just to make it clear, you’re saying that the \*episodes \*weren’t versions of each other, not the _characters_. You’re asking about actors who played a different character in a remake of the _same story_, not in two different episodes or films in a series. Correct? ---
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> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Except for the[four parts he didn’t play](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069281/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast)… Funny. I don’t remember anyone else in the film. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actor-playing-non-cameo-part-in-different-versions-of-same-film/714193.md?page=3)