# Actors that play themselves playing their character

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**Created:** [September 11, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149 "2005-09-11T22:11:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![wayward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a87d85/32.png) [@wayward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wayward)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/41 "2005-09-12T12:54:17Z")

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> [@The New Guy](#):
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> …  
> Robin Williams  
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I’d agree that Williams used to always play “Wacky unconventional _X_ who nevertheless gets the job done”, but he seems to have been diversifying with his movies a bit recently. Some, like _Death to Smoochy_ are obviously extensions of parts of his stand-up persona but (although admittedly I haven’t seen either) his performances in _Insomnia_ and _One Hour Photo_ are by all accounts ‘proper acting’.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/42 "2005-09-12T13:24:53Z")

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> [@SolGrundy](#):
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> Bill Murray the cocky and arrogant wise-cracking guy who made fun of the movie while he was in it.

The Murray of _Stripes_ and _Ghostbusters_ was a wisecracker _par excellence_ and had oodles of Irish gumption. But he was neither cocky nor arrogant. In fact he was often up against icons of traditional, obnoxious male arrogance – Warren Oates in _Stripes_, William Atherton in _Ghostbusters_ – and overcoming them with sheer wits and wit.

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**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/43 "2005-09-12T13:26:11Z")

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Joahn Cusack (Joan and John)  
James Spader

Although I pause here to point out that in the movie True Colors, John Cusack and Spader each play roles you would envision better suited for the other.

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**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/44 "2005-09-12T13:37:56Z")

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Tim Allen.

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**Author:** ![KinSaba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7bcc69/32.png) [@KinSaba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KinSaba)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/45 "2005-09-12T13:49:30Z")

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Owen Wilson always plays himself, but I like him and find him very enjoyable to watch.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/46 "2005-09-12T13:58:01Z")

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OK, maybe she’s done other stuff, but in every movie in which I’ve seen Winona Ryder, she’s been this fragile, doe-eyed, soft-spoken, insecure little thing. Anyone care to comment?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/47 "2005-09-12T14:08:00Z")

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No mention of Meg Ryan?  
Jeesh. I can’t go and see a movie with her in it at this point (the last one, something about time travel–Kate and Leopold–was just soooo bad).

Nicole Kidman–ok, I’ll give you the Hours, but what else? Nadda.

Winona played a _seemingly_ soft, fragile, innocent young thing in Scorcese’s --gah! Cannot remember the title! It had Daniel Day Lewis in it, based on an Edith Wharton novel–anyhoo-she turns out to be a scheming, controlling puller of strings.

I think the OP means something that goes beyond typecasting. Like in “You’ve Got Mail”–Meg played Meg and Tom Hanks phoned his performance in.

I don’t see Hugh Grant doing this so much anymore. “About a Boy” was a much different character–not as nice, not as “heroic”, not as “golly, gee whiz” as others.

And he played a total shit in the first Bridget Jones.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/48 "2005-09-12T14:43:28Z")

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Crikey, how about Jean-Claude Van Damme?

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**Author:** ![GrizzRich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ba0ec/32.png) [@GrizzRich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrizzRich)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/49 "2005-09-12T15:16:21Z")

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Brian Dennehy

Chris Tucker

Christopher Walken

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/50 "2005-09-12T16:16:03Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I used to work in a video store. I STILL maintain that Cage has made a total of 4 good movies (_Fast Times at Ridgemont High_, _Bringing Out the Dead_, _Matchstick Men_ - which is made watchable by Sam Rockwell, and _Raising Arizona_). And that his Oscar should be revoked, and given to its rightful owner, Sean Penn, for _Dead Man Walking_.

Here, here. I was shocked at how well he did in Matchstick Men.

I nominate Martin Lawrence.

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**Author:** ![Corii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Corii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corii)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/51 "2005-09-12T16:23:59Z")

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> [@buns3000](#):
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> … and Steve Martin.

Ooh have you seen _The Spanish Prisoner_? He’s definitely not doing the “funny guy” thing in that movie, which I found very entertaining.

I’ll second Owen Wilson, he can only play “himself”.

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**Author:** ![Meaty\_Beaty\_Big\_and\_Bouncy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Meaty\_Beaty\_Big\_and\_Bouncy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meaty_Beaty_Big_and_Bouncy)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/52 "2005-09-12T17:05:30Z")

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Did anybody mention Bill Paxton? And he _is_ a bad actor in everything I’ve seen him in.

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**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/53 "2005-09-12T19:19:59Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Winona played a _seemingly_ soft, fragile, innocent young thing in Scorcese’s --gah! Cannot remember the title! It had Daniel Day Lewis in it, based on an Edith Wharton novel–anyhoo-she turns out to be a scheming, controlling puller of strings.

_The Age of Innocence_?

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**Author:** ![AmbushBug](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ambushbug/32/4600_2.png) [@AmbushBug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmbushBug)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/54 "2005-09-12T19:22:25Z")

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Why would it necessarily be _bad_ acting to play yourself? Wouldn’t good “method” actors actually seek this out by first changing their own personae into those of their characters, and then playing themselves?

Jerry Lewis as Syd Valentine in [The Big Mouth](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061401/) comes to mind - I seem to misremember a TV special on Jerry Lewis (maybe it was E! True Hollywood Stories) claimed that he was a terrible person to be around even when “off duty” because he was “in” the Syd Valentine persona.

Perusing the movies of Jerry Lewis, I am given to wonder how well he played his seven distinct characters in [The Family Jewels](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059166/).

Either Jerry Lewis is the best example or the worst example of an actor playing himself. Maybe both.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/55 "2005-09-12T23:55:40Z")

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Samuel L. Jackson has been playing Jules his entire career. It doesn’t help that he always screams his lines.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/56 "2005-09-13T00:23:17Z")

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Tommy Lee Jones. Usually the defining characteristic of each of his characters is what the character wears. Thus: In FireBirds, he plays Tommy Lee Jones in a flight suit, Men In Black, he plays Tommy Lee Jones in a suit and sunglasses, and in Man of the House, he plays Tommy Lee Jones with a cowboy hat and a cool-looking Colt .45.

That said, I LIKE Tommy Lee Jones. He’s a very entertaining character. 🆒

Clive Owen seems to play the same sort of cool (attitude wise) British guy in everything I’ve seen him in (Which includes Sin City, The Driver, and Privateer 2: The Darkening)

Oh, and as for Arnold Schwarzenegger, in “Last Action Hero” he briefly played Arnold Schwarzenegger. 😃

One of my favorite things is when an actor plays a character who lampoons the characters he normally plays, ie: Antonio Banderaz in Spy Kids (featuring the entire cast and the director of Desperado) or Shrek. 🙂

Charlie Sheen has also done this from time to time (such as in Hot Shots Part Deux, where he even goes so far as to repeat his monologue from Platoon, while Martin Sheen passes on another riverboat repeating HIS monologue from Apocalypse now)

Mark Hamil also does this. 99% of the stuff I’ve seen him in (ie: Not voice acting) has him playing Mark Hamil. (And it makes me grin every time)

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/57 "2005-09-13T03:36:03Z")

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> [@Dooku](#):
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> Samuel L. Jackson has been playing Jules his entire career. It doesn’t help that he always screams his lines.

I disagree, particularly in _Unbreakable_. Even if you hated the movie (which I didn’t by any stretch), I thought he played a very different role than his usual. Same with _Sphere_, which I did hate. He was terrible in it, but it was different.

But I think you’re right for about 90% of his films.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/58 "2005-09-13T04:19:24Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> Mark Hamil also does this. 99% of the stuff I’ve seen him in (ie: Not voice acting) has him playing Mark Hamil. (And it makes me grin every time)

Yeah. He’s lucky- he has a solid, respected career as a voice actor, and he’ll probably always have cameo requests because he was Luke Skywalker.

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**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/59 "2005-09-13T05:22:39Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I used to work in a video store. I STILL maintain that Cage has made a total of 4 good movies (_Fast Times at Ridgemont High_, _Bringing Out the Dead_, _Matchstick Men_ - which is made watchable by Sam Rockwell, and _Raising Arizona_). And that his Oscar should be revoked, and given to its rightful owner, Sean Penn, for _Dead Man Walking_.

Ahemm!! **Valley Girl**?? C’mon man, he was the Punk Dude who totally stopped the world and melted with Julie!

I liked **Leaving Los Vegas** , but right about **Face Off** was when Cage became a complete tool.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actors-that-play-themselves-playing-their-character/321149/60 "2005-09-13T05:35:12Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Yeah. He’s lucky- he has a solid, respected career as a voice actor, and he’ll probably always have cameo requests because he was Luke Skywalker.

Heh, in some of the Wing Commander games (3, 4, and Prophecy) he plays a war-weary starfighter pilot. About a third of the blooper reel for WC3 is actors forgetting their lines and then pointing off screen and asking “Isnt’ that the guy from Star Wars?” Best Mark Hamil cameo ever though has to be the one in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

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