# Actual attempts of Republicans trying to steal the upcoming presidential election in 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 20, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533 "2024-09-20T22:16:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/141 "2024-10-11T19:58:16Z")
Here’s a new one but it should surprise no one: > **[Damning Video Shows Roger Stone Is Plotting a Coup for November](https://newrepublic.com/post/187088/roger-stone-donald-trump-coup-november-video)** > > The Donald Trump ally has some sick plans for a potential Republican victory. > A nine-minute, unedited, undercover interview with Roger Stone revealed some of the MAGA ally’s more disturbing goals for a second Trump administration. > > The covert recording of a discussion between Stone and an undercover journalist at a meet and greet in Jacksonville, Florida, on August 4, [published](https://x.com/lawindsor/status/1844490455150719298?s=46&t=CIY7fYccGpYmPpiAuYI8fQ) by documentarian Lauren Windsor, caught Stone admitting live on camera that he already intends to send “armed guards to dispute the election in Detroit” and to imprison “former Attorney General Bill Barr if Trump returns to power.” ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/142 "2024-10-14T14:37:28Z")
This is scary. There really is no bottom here: > **[Trump Wants the Military to Target Americans Who Oppose Him](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-military-target-americans-oppose-him-1235132806/)** > > Donald Trump said he thinks U.S. troops should be deployed "if necessary" against "radical left lunatics" on election day. > [Donald Trump](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/donald-trump/) has proposed a fascist plan to deploy military forces against U.S. citizens who oppose him on election day. > > “I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within,” the former president told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo when she asked if he expects “chaos on election day” from immigrants. “We have some very bad people, some sick people, radical left lunatics…. And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military.” ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/143 "2024-10-14T16:19:02Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > This is scary. There really is no bottom here: > > [Trump Wants the Military to Target Americans Who Oppose Him](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-military-target-americans-oppose-him-1235132806/) > > > [Donald Trump](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/donald-trump/) has proposed a fascist plan to deploy military forces against U.S. citizens who oppose him on election day. > > > > “I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within,” the former president told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo when she asked if he expects “chaos on election day” from immigrants. “We have some very bad people, some sick people, radical left lunatics…. And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military.” Considering that the Commander in Chief is currently Joe Biden, I think we’re more likely to see it deployed against MAGAts threatening purple state polling places. Probably not, in any event, but I for one wouldn’t mind seeing some of the leading GOP Voices for Violence™ rounded up in the next three weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/144 "2024-10-14T19:24:56Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Considering that the Commander in Chief is currently Joe Biden… Governors control the National Guard. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/145 "2024-10-14T19:39:42Z")
I saw a [discussion on reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1g2vj2m/did_anyone_else_receive_one_of_these_i_found_it/) about someone getting a ballot-sized return envelope from “The Presidential Coalition”. With all the misinformation going around I’m not sure if this is something to believe or be concerned about. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/146 "2024-10-14T19:40:12Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Governors control the National Guard. No longer 100%. National Guard units are under the dual control of state governments and the federal government ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/147 "2024-10-14T19:42:15Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > Considering that the Commander in Chief is currently Joe Biden… > > Governors control the National Guard. Well, sure, if we’re talking about the real world. But when Trump talks about the National Guard I’m sure he fantasizes about giving the orders to shoot down Democrats himself – or ordering the 101st Airborne Division into any states where a blue governor dares defy him, _a la_ Eisenhower. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/148 "2024-10-15T20:30:54Z")
Some good news: a Georgia judge has overturned the state election board’s new rule that would have allowed them to attempt to avoid certifying results. > **['Huge defeat for Trump': Georgia judge's ruling spurs cheers and relief](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-georgia-election-board/)** > > A Georgia judge's ruling Tuesday that state boards must certify results, regardless of any election fraud suspicions, spurred sighs of relief from those who feared former President Donald Trump could unjustly claim the state on Nov. 5. > > Fulton... ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/149 "2024-10-15T21:40:53Z")
I thought that fucker was in jail. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/150 "2024-10-15T22:13:29Z")
Trump commuted his sentence, then pardoned him, on his way out of office. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/151 "2024-10-17T12:48:03Z")
John Oliver just had an episode dedicated to attempted subversion of the 2024 election: 29 minutes long [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/CkK3W0lOKcc/maxresdefault.jpg "Election Subversion 2024: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkK3W0lOKcc) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/152 "2024-10-21T21:05:48Z")
Glad to know judges are pushing back. > # Courts foiling GOP’s late push for election changes > > [https://www.axios.com/2024/10/21/courts-republicans-late-election-changes](https://www.axios.com/2024/10/21/courts-republicans-late-election-changes) > > **Driving the news:** In [Georgia](https://www.axios.com/2024/10/17/georgia-election-rules-trump-judge-blocks-changes), a Trump-aligned majority of the state’s election board passed a flurry of rules last month that would have changed how the election would be run in the state — including a measure to require poll workers to hand-count millions of ballots. > > - Fulton County judges [overturned that rule](https://www.axios.com/2024/10/16/georgia-ballot-hand-count-rule-judge-block) and others, including one that would have allowed Georgia county election officials to [delay certifying election results](https://www.axios.com/2024/10/15/georgia-elections-certification-judge-ruling) merely by citing suspicions of fraud. > - Republicans have appealed the decisions, which Republican National Committee chair Michael Whatley called ["the very worst of judicial activism](https://apnews.com/article/georgia-election-rules-invalidated-appeal-f5a6fd0ca2dffb13eed3d2a89494b25f)." > > **In Arizona,** … > … > > **In North Carolina** , … > … > > **In Nevada,** … > … > > **In Nebraska,** … > … > > **What they’re saying:** “What we’ve seen … is courts across the country doing exactly what they’re supposed to do: Defend the Constitution and protect our right to vote,” said Jim Messina, a former campaign manager for Barack Obama and chair of the Democracy Defenders super PAC. > > … ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/153 "2024-10-26T09:07:02Z")
There’s been a large number (about 2500) likely fraudulent voter registrations submitted in Lancaster County PA. Submitted just before the deadline. Now it’s still early, so we don’t know who submitted them, and won’t know until further investigations. But this really pings my Republican-fraud detection meter. > **[Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter...](https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5165382/lancaster-county-voter-registration-fraud)** > > Officials in Lancaster County in the swing state of Pennsylvania say they identified hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter registration applications. But remember not to jump to conclusions. Let the investigation happen before castigating the culprits. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/154 "2024-10-26T10:48:26Z")
Dangit! I came here to share this. Good work. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/155 "2024-10-26T14:30:11Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > There’s been a large number (about 2500) likely fraudulent voter registrations submitted in Lancaster County PA. The Amish!! It’s got to be them! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/156 "2024-10-26T15:02:50Z")
It could be registrations submitted in the names of Amish people, with the hope that they wouldn’t notice. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/157 "2024-10-26T18:39:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The Amish!! It’s got to be them! It’s Amish space lasers. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/158 "2024-10-27T05:43:11Z")
Heh, that’s at least a theory worth investigating. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/159 "2024-10-27T09:54:53Z")
Here’s an updated article on the registration fraud in Lancaster. It seems the problems are coming from one or two paid canvasser organizations. They didn’t say which ones nor what party they’re associated with. About 60% of the suspicious registrations are turning up bad. > **[Lancaster County DA, commissioners link fraudulent voter registrations to...](https://lancasteronline.com/news/politics/lancaster-county-da-commissioners-link-fraudulent-voter-registrations-to-paid-canvassing-update/article_5132ce60-92dd-11ef-9ec2-d32918af4f5b.html)** > > UPDATE: Lancaster County officials hold onto crucial details of investigation over 'fraudulent' voter registration applications So the main problem may be that these organizations are being paid based on the number of registrations submitted. This is not a good way to run voter registration drives, since there’s too much of an incentive to cheat. The same with signature drives for initiatives, which is why paying per signature is illegal here in Oregon. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533/160 "2024-10-27T11:00:48Z")
I’ll fully admit that I was biased enough to assume that the Lancaster thing is Republicans upon first reading. I hope so, if that doesn’t sound too weird. 🤞 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-attempts-of-republicans-trying-to-steal-the-upcoming-presidential-election-in-2024/1007533.md?page=9)