# Actual forums user "RedFury" does not like Jews **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 19, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217 "2011-01-19T17:12:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/1 "2011-01-19T17:12:55Z")
In response to a moderator request to take it to the BBQ Pit: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=593493](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=593493) RedFury has decided to accuse anyone who believes anti-Semitism exists at all, ever, of being an agent of the Israeli government. His response to a request to discuss anti-Semitism in the U.S. and Europe is to crow that he is correct in his assertion that anti-Semitism is, 100% of the time, an accusation used against those who do not “toe the line” of Israeli infallibility. The fact that neither the thread, nor any posters in it, nor the film that is the subject of the OP, were previously defending or discussing Israel does not deter him (nor, for what it’s worth, do any moderators seem interested in deterring his bigoted comments). This is the typical position of both the far left and the far right: turn every discussion of Jews into a discussion of Israel; refuse to let the two subjects diverge; hold all Jews responsible for Israel’s actions; defend every anti-Semite, no matter what they say or do, as a legitimate protestor of Israeli policy; then, insist that it is only the other side that conflates criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism and play the censorship card. And his name is not RedFox. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/2 "2011-01-19T17:13:45Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > In response to a moderator request to take it to the BBQ Pit: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=593493](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=593493) > > RedFury has decided to accuse anyone who believes anti-Semitism exists at all, ever, of being an agent of the Israeli government. > > His response to a request to discuss anti-Semitism in the U.S. and Europe is to crow that he is correct in his assertion that anti-Semitism is, 100% of the time, an accusation used against those who do not “toe the line” of Israeli infallibility. > > The fact that neither the thread, nor any posters in it, nor the film that is the subject of the OP, were previously defending or discussing Israel does not deter him (nor, for what it’s worth, do any moderators seem interested in deterring his bigoted comments). > > This is the typical position of both the far left and the far right: turn every discussion of Jews into a discussion of Israel; refuse to let the two subjects diverge; hold all Jews responsible for Israel’s actions; defend every anti-Semite, no matter what they say or do, as a legitimate protestor of Israeli policy; then, insist that it is only the other side that conflates criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism and play the censorship card. > > And his name is not RedFox. That is a lunatic reading of what he said. Seek help. ---
**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/3 "2011-01-19T17:13:47Z")
Your link isn’t working for me. I get a 404 error. ---
**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/4 "2011-01-19T17:16:59Z")
> [@Bambro](#): > > Your link isn’t working for me. I get a 404 error. > **[Jewish Dopers: Have you ever watched the film "Defamation"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=593493)** > > I’m very reluctant to post this thread because 1) Israel will be brought up, and it seems that we can never have thread about Israel that ends very well, 2) I do not want to be accused of anti-Semitism, which if you’ve seen the film, is ironic (or... ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/5 "2011-01-19T17:21:52Z")
Why did you have to start a new thread? You should have had to live with your old mistake. Your own damn fault you couldn’t even get his name right. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/6 "2011-01-19T17:26:41Z")
What is an Actual Forums User? Why did you make up a bunch of bullshit and attribute it to **RedFury**? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/7 "2011-01-19T17:27:31Z")
Perhaps you could start a third thread where you accurately characterize what he said. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/8 "2011-01-19T17:30:09Z")
I don’t know about this Red Fox character, but the Red Robin restaurant makes a mighty fine avocado burger. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/9 "2011-01-19T17:33:06Z")
Red Rover! Red Rover! Send coherence over! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/10 "2011-01-19T17:39:43Z")
Whether \*\*RedFury \*\*should be pitted or not is hard to tell, but the OP is making an idiot of himself. WTF? Link to the post you’re upset about. And don’t start another thread to do it. ---
**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/11 "2011-01-19T18:21:08Z")
The rest of you are such anti-semites, it’s obvious! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/12 "2011-01-19T18:24:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Whether \*\*RedFury \*\*should be pitted or not is hard to tell, but the OP is making an idiot of himself. _Making_ an idiot? I do believe the process has been complete for quite some time. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/13 "2011-01-19T18:35:43Z")
The **RedBaron** does not like Sopwith Camels. ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/14 "2011-01-19T19:15:05Z")
The other thread was funnier. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/15 "2011-01-19T19:28:47Z")
I should go through that entire thread to find out what he said? Find it yourself and tell us what post, and I’ll consider being angry on your behalf. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/16 "2011-01-19T19:44:44Z")
Now I want a Red Fury burger. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/17 "2011-01-19T20:13:00Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I should go through that entire thread to find out what he said? Find it yourself and tell us what post, and I’ll consider being angry on your behalf. > [@Jewish Dopers: Have you ever watched the film "Defamation"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-have-you-ever-watched-the-film-defamation/568018/56): > > Great film, thanks for bringing it to light, **monstro**. Entertaining young man if a bit Moorish in his ways I salute him for his effort. That said, I’d think you’d know better than to bring this as a topic to GD what with all the years you’ve been here: page after page of Impenetrable Walls Of Text© defending all that’s Right with Israel. > > Don’t agree? Anti-Semite and/or self-hating Jew. Duh! > > Just ask Mr Foxman. _In the context_ of a thread which was not discussing Israel, but discussing anti-Semitism in Europe and the U.S. to that point, the invocation of legions of Israel defenders and the confusion of anti-Semitism with opinions on Israeli policy is, clearly, motivated by one and only one thing. Later on: > [@](#): > > And Shamir’s and that of many others Jews depicted in the film…and obviously any of those that dare not toe the line dictated by the Israeli Government and their devoted American brethren. Again, the topic is simply the existence of anti-Semitism in Europe or the U.S., using examples such as rocks being thrown at a school bus in New York. To bring up “the line dictated by the Israeli Government and their devoted American brethren” [sic] is motivated by one and only one thing. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/18 "2011-01-19T20:19:21Z")
Where do you get this? > [@](#): > > RedFury has decided to accuse anyone who believes anti-Semitism exists at all, ever, of being an agent of the Israeli government. And this. > [@](#): > > His response to a request to discuss anti-Semitism in the U.S. and Europe is to crow that he is correct in his assertion that anti-Semitism is, 100% of the time, an accusation used against those who do not “toe the line” of Israeli infallibility. Note that your assertions contain absolutes, which are easily refuted by a single counter example. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/19 "2011-01-19T21:37:28Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Red Rover! Red Rover! Send coherence over! This is my favorite thing today. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/20 "2011-01-19T22:35:24Z")
Dude, as I said in the originating thread you need to watch the goddamn movie prior to engaging in any sort of debate about it. However, after attempting to parse your OP, I realize it was the wrong advice to give – you need a software upgrade first. \Don’t condescend _me_, man. I’ll fuckin’ blank ya, man!\ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217.md?page=2)