# Actual forums user "RedFury" does not like Jews

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 19, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217 "2011-01-19T17:12:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/actual-forums-user-redfury-does-not-like-jews/568217/317 "2011-02-03T14:42:17Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> One thing you have to understand is that newcomer is very stupid, and doesn’t like to let facts get in the way of his anti-Israel narrative.
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> For instance, just a few days ago he drew a Warning in GD because he was spewing some 9/11 Truther nonsense about 1: how Mossad was behind the attack and I pointed out that the same cites he was using specifically said that there was no connection to the attack, so he went berserk and accused me of lying. Because the facts showed he was wrong, they must be out to get him.
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> Later on, he claimed that the Al Jazeera’s recently released Palestine Papers showed that the 2: PA made a great offer and Israel still decided to say ‘no’ to them.  
> I pointed out, with cites, that what actually happened was that Abbas suspended negotiations. A couple other posters provided, IIRC, three other cites for two other times Abbas suspended negotiations. So newcomer said I was lying. He actually whined about how pointing out the facts of a situation is invoking “pseudocomplexity” that just gets in the way of his conclusions.
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> Later, when he again claimed that it was 3: “true that Israeli side rejected (repeatedly) the most favorable peace offer in a long time” and I again pointed out that negotiations were ongoing until Abbas suspended them, newcomer decided that the facts meant that he was being trolled.
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> So he’s a Truther with a hardon for Israeli conspiracy theories, who doesn’t let facts get in the way of his bullshit. Trying to drill rationality into his skull is a bit like trying to teach a cat to knit.

Underlined item 1: Never claimed that. The discussion was about establishing if at least 2 of the guys on the top of the van on Sept-11 were Mossad operatives. There was no movement of discussion beyond that from my end. Ergo, you just made it up for effect.

Underlined item 2: The tale of unrelated events where, in fact, one is independent of the other. It is seriously dishonest to avoid debate on one by pretending that the other is the real debate due to causal effect. As mentioned in that thread, nobody `reads` Papers as you do. Which is throwing mud to see if anything stick.

Underlined item 3: See Item 2. Just a note to the author, repetition won’t make it right. As challenged, find me one commentator who gets same conclusion (but you won’t Google because even the Google cannot make stuff up).

And a side note – just because you are in the Pit there is no need to espouse your true nature. Leave it for GD.

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