# Adaher is a Big Giant RACIST

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 3, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740 "2015-04-03T19:48:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rained](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5e9695/32.png) [@Rained](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rained)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/121 "2015-04-04T21:13:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> IOW, “I’m not a racist, but …” 😉
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> We’ve seen people exactly as smart as you many times before here. Every time there’s a posting at stormfront about where to go to troll the libtards.
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> The dinosaur sex thing was more original than most, give you credit for that, but it’s still an internet invention.

Well I apologize if I hurt anyone’s feelings and I can assure you that I’m not here to troll anyone.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/122 "2015-04-04T21:18:26Z")

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Is that what you meant [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18264152&postcount=70)?

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> I was hoping to finally have found a site where the libtards would be permanently banned upon recognition.

Stormfront, Free Republic, wherever, you can go back there any time, and regale them all with stories of your exploits in the Reality-Based Community.

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/123 "2015-04-04T21:21:41Z")

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> [@Rained](#):
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> Well I apologize if I hurt anyone’s feelings and I can assure you that I’m not here to troll anyone.

I assure you that nobody has hurt feelings. We’re all just laughing about how much you suck at this.

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**Author:** ![Rained](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5e9695/32.png) [@Rained](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rained)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/124 "2015-04-04T21:22:34Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Is that what you meant [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18264152&postcount=70)?
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> Stormfront, Free Republic, wherever, you can go back there any time, and regale them all with stories of your exploits in the Reality-Based Community.

Do you think it’s acceptable to put labels on people you don’t know and to group them with others which have different views than you? If I think about it long enough I might be able to come up with another group of people who like to do the same.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/125 "2015-04-04T21:24:39Z")

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> [@Rained](#):
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> Do you think it’s acceptable to put labels on people you don’t know and to group them with others which have different views than you?

Like libtards?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/126 "2015-04-04T21:26:35Z")

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> [@neofishboy](#):
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> I assure you that nobody has hurt feelings. We’re all just laughing about how much you suck at this.

My feelings were really hurt. I cried a lot. Especially the libtards part. That one… it’s just too, too cruel. It’s like he’s saying I’m a lib, but he’s also saying I’m a tard! HOW CAN THAT NOT HURT?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/127 "2015-04-04T21:27:44Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Like libtards?

No, I don’t think he likes us at all.

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**Author:** ![Rained](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5e9695/32.png) [@Rained](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rained)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/128 "2015-04-04T21:31:30Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> No, I don’t think he likes us at all.

That would also be an inaccurate statement.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/129 "2015-04-04T23:00:14Z")

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> [@Rained](#):
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> The biggest hate groups in this country are the NAACP and the ACLU.

Nope, not in the list of the most notorious ones, the ones that check for extremist activity do not see it as you do.

[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups](http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups)

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**Author:** ![Rained](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5e9695/32.png) [@Rained](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rained)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/130 "2015-04-04T23:23:32Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Nope, not in the list of the most notorious ones, the ones that check for extremist activity do not see it as you do.
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> [http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups](http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups)

You did intend for this to be a joke?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/131 "2015-04-04T23:40:51Z")

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> [@Rained](#):
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> You did intend for this to be a joke?

Nope, trying to figure out if you are one. You may be one 🙂 but so far only your standard of what is supposed to be a hate group is what it is a joke.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/132 "2015-04-05T00:53:45Z")

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It’s sad to see the depths of sewage to which the Grand Old Party, the Party of Lincoln, and the conservative wing of American politics, have descended. May God have pity on the United States of America, for her most ardent self-professed patriots clearly will not.

I especially like the bit where “you libtards” are guilty of calling rude names. Gosharooty.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/133 "2015-04-05T01:09:59Z")

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Oh well, Rained got banned, that troll sock smell was a bit familiar…

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/134 "2015-04-05T01:35:44Z")

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Good nose. All I smelled was the reek of hypocrisy. And extremism. And really, really arrant stupidity.

But, then, socking SDMB isn’t done by people with any brains.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/135 "2015-04-05T01:43:21Z")

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So we’re never gonna find out why the biggest hate groups in this country are the NAACP and the ACLU?

What a fucking cocktease.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/136 "2015-04-05T01:45:39Z")

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Perhaps he meant fattest, per average member.

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/137 "2015-04-05T03:17:57Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> So we’re never gonna find out why the biggest hate groups in this country are the NAACP and the ACLU?
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> What a fucking cocktease.

Yeah, they could have banned him after he enlightened us!

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/138 "2015-04-05T03:57:42Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> It’s kind of like saying laws against assault infringe on your right to beat up your spouse.

That would be a great argument if there was such a thing as a freedom to beat up your spouse. If there was, we wouldn’t need government in the first place. Government exists to guarantee our rights, whether we are weak or strong, majority or minority.

In a world where people did not discriminate against each other for all kinds of shallow reasons, or where such a thing was rare behavior, we wouldn’t need anti-discrimination laws. They exist because there was a problem that needed to be solved, and in order to solve it, we had to limit people’s freedom to avoid those they didn’t like because of their skin color. Later on we added religion, sex, age, disability, etc.

If no one committed murder, if no one beat their spouse, if no one committed rape, we’d still have laws against those things because there is no right infringed by having such laws. Anti-discrimination laws by contrast, involved a HUGE debate over decades and decades precisely because it forced people to change behavior that they considered their God-given right. And not just a God-given right, a natural right to boot, since it’s natural for people to form themselves into tribes. It was an evolutionary response:

> **[Tribalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism)**
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> Tribalism is the state of being organized by, or advocating for, tribes or tribal lifestyles. Human evolution primarily occurred in small hunter-gatherer groups, as opposed to in larger and more recently settled agricultural societies or civilizations. With a negative connotation and in a political context, tribalism can also mean discriminatory behavior or attitudes towards out-groups, based on in-group loyalty.
> The word "tribe" can be defined to mean an extended kin group or clan with a common...

> [@](#):
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> Tribalism has a very adaptive effect in human evolution. Humans are social animals, and ill-equipped to live on their own.[12] Tribalism and social bonding help to keep individuals committed to the group, even when personal relations may fray. This keeps individuals from wandering off or joining other groups. It also leads to bullying when a tribal member is unwilling to conform to the politics of the collective.[13]
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> Socially, divisions between groups fosters specialized interactions with others, based on association: altruism (positive interactions with unrelated members), kin-selectivity (positive interactions with related members), and violence (negative interactions). Thus, groups with a strong sense of unity and identity can benefit from kin selection behavior such as common property and shared resources. The tendency of members to unite against an outside tribe and the ability to act violently and prejudicially against that outside tribe likely boosted the chances of survival in genocidal conflicts.

Obviously a modern democracy can’t function this way, so the government had to force us to get along at least well enough to function economically. But to act as if this is just nothing, that it didn’t infringe on what people had regarded as their rights and natural behavior since man first wrote shit down, is just immature. Integration was a pretty controversial concept among African-Americans too.

> **[Black separatism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_separatism)**
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> Black separatism is a separatist political movement that seeks separate economic and cultural development for those of African descent in societies, particularly in the United States. Black separatism stems from the idea of racial solidarity, and it also implies that black people should organize themselves on the basis of their common skin color, their race, culture, and African heritage. There were a total of 255 black separatist groups recorded in the United States as of 2019.
> Black separati...

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/139 "2015-04-05T04:06:07Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> That’s the racist part. You say “infringed.” That word means “improperly limited or violated.” It’s a negative word. Saying that you think that the original Civil Rights Act limited something improperly means you support undoing what it limited. And what it limited, among other things, is discrimination against race.
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> If you did not intend to communicate this, you should not have used the word “infringed.”

Okay, then how about the legal term, “Substantially burdened?”

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-is-a-big-giant-racist/716740/140 "2015-04-05T11:34:05Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Yes and **adaher** is the World’s Smallest Giant. Of course, he’s also the World’s Biggest Midget.
> 
> Internet points to those who get it. 😃

_The Phantom Tollbooth_?

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