# adaher, you cowardly shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 17, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798 "2015-11-17T13:39:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/241 "2015-11-19T03:32:56Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The public overwhelmingly backs my position, so if someone wants to change this thread title to “Americans are cowardly shits” it might be appropriate at this point: > > [Poll: A Majority of Americans Oppose Accepting Syrian Refugees](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-majority-americans-oppose-accepting-syrian-refugees-n465816) We are cowardly shits. This isn’t news. Look at our reaction to 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/242 "2015-11-19T03:33:58Z")
Are these swarthy Christians you’re talking about, or the normal kind? It clearly makes a difference. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/243 "2015-11-19T03:35:47Z")
Was stopping that soccer game in Germany an act of cowardice? How about France using extraordinary powers of search and arrest that aren’t constitutional here? There’s always some paranoia and irrationality in the wake of events like this(see: limiting of liquids carried on planes), but most actions taken by governments have been rational and prudent. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/244 "2015-11-19T04:06:31Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The public overwhelmingly backs my position, so if someone wants to change this thread title to “Americans are cowardly shits” it might be appropriate at this point: > > [Poll: A Majority of Americans Oppose Accepting Syrian Refugees](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-majority-americans-oppose-accepting-syrian-refugees-n465816) 56% is “overwhelming”? You do know that 50% is half, right? So, just more than half of Americans are cowardly shits. That may be whelming, but it has a way to go before getting to overwhelming. It takes about 2 years for a refugee to clear our current screening process. It would be much easier for a terrorist to come in to the country in a bunch of other ways. And yes, your cowardly fear is palpable. It radiates off of you in waves. If you’re scared, stay home. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/245 "2015-11-19T04:13:06Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > . . . but most actions taken by governments have been rational and prudent. No problem, then, because the U.S. Government is not going to stop taking in Syrian refugees. A few asshole Republicans will vote for such a measure in Congress, but it won’t become law. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/246 "2015-11-19T04:17:57Z")
And my only expectation is that the President take responsibility for his decision. And Democrats along with him since most of them are supporting him, with the exception of a few actual cowards. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/247 "2015-11-19T04:20:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > And my only expectation is that the President take responsibility for his decision. And Democrats along with him since most of them are supporting him, with the exception of a few actual cowards. I’m sure he, and they, will take responsibility just as he has done all along. Having a responsible person in the White House has been a very nice change. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/248 "2015-11-19T04:22:02Z")
Ah, so he won’t blame it on staff, say he only found out when he read it in the newspaper, and SDMB liberals will not say, “What, was he supposed to vet each refugee himself?” Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/249 "2015-11-19T04:24:42Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Ah, so he won’t blame it on staff, say he only found out when he read it in the newspaper, and SDMB liberals will not say, “What, was he supposed to vet each refugee himself?” > > Good to know. Good to know you are just a coward, besides a swallower disinformation and a pamphleteer for the right. Historically speaking many Americans end up being on the wrong side when opposing immigrants. > **[The U.S. Has A Very Long History Of Hostility Toward Refugees](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/syrian-refugee-crisis_n_564a31c7e4b045bf3df04d6a)** > > Public opinion was against taking in people fleeing Germany in the 1930s, Vietnam in the '70s and Cuba in the '80s. However, there is always a lot of Americans that do not follow fear. > [@](#): > > In a few cases, Americans have been more welcoming toward refugees. In 1991, for one example, a slim majority of Americans agreed that the country had a special responsibility to provide shelter and care for refugees fleeing Iraq. In 1999, a solid two-thirds supported bringing a small number of ethnic Albanian refugees from Kosovo into the U.S. And as recently as September of this year, some surveys showed that a little more than half of Americans approved of the decision to take in some of the refugees fleeing to Europe – although others found less enthusiasm. > > And at least in principle, Americans have held on to the belief that the U.S. has a special responsibility to take in those in need. Asked in 2011 whether the inscription on the Statue of Liberty – “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free” – should still apply to immigration policy, more than six in 10 said that it should. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/250 "2015-11-19T04:26:24Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The public overwhelmingly backs my position, so if someone wants to change this thread title to “Americans are cowardly shits” it might be appropriate at this point: I would support that. I think Americans have become a soft, cowardly, fearful people. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/251 "2015-11-19T04:29:23Z")
That’s what ISIS thinks too. See what I did there?🙂 I also notice that no one has yet answered my question about whether German and French actions in the wake of the Paris attacks are cowardly. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/252 "2015-11-19T04:33:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s what ISIS thinks too. See what I did there?🙂 It does not take away your cowardice. > [@adaher](#): > > I also notice that no one has yet answered my question about whether German and French actions in the wake of the Paris attacks are cowardly. Perhaps because such an stupid request from you was seen as stupid. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/253 "2015-11-19T04:37:58Z")
Which means that cowardly actions are any actions liberals disagree with for ideological reasons. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/254 "2015-11-19T04:43:09Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Which means that cowardly actions are any actions liberals disagree with for ideological reasons. No, the real cowardly act seen here in this thread is your faint-hearted, lily-livered, spineless, chicken-shitted, craven, timorous, fearful, pusillanimous act of hitting the straw man you have there. Cite of when I said that I opposed what the French government is doing or shut up your diarrhea mouth. > **[Paris attacks complicate Europe’s strained border controls](https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/Paris-attacks-complicate-Europe%E2%80%99s-strained-border-controls/article60492981.ece)** > > European leaders and some experts said the terrorism question just made the flow of migrants across the union’s borders more politically loaded. > [@](#): > > Part of the complication with border checks involves the different kinds of borders in Europe: the outer border, such as between Turkey and Greece, which marks the boundaries of the European Union, and internal open borders of the 26-nation Schengen area. Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany has been pressing appeals to Italy, Greece and Turkey to secure Europe’s external borders and thus preserve freedom of movement in the Schengen zone. > > \*\*That position is shared by President Francois Hollande of France, who on Monday, even after increasing evidence that the attackers came from both outside the European Union and from within it, emphasised that erecting walls and fences “would be the end of Europe”. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/255 "2015-11-19T04:45:57Z")
Good luck with that message in the coming election. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/256 "2015-11-19T04:49:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Good luck with that message in the coming election. And thanks once again for showing all that indeed you will carry water for the candidates that will push for fear and bigotry. And since you are not taking back your straw men, you are also then a going to the level of becoming a stinky liar too. Glad we figured that out. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/257 "2015-11-19T04:50:06Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I also notice that no one has yet answered my question about whether German and French actions in the wake of the Paris attacks are cowardly. [Hollande has now promised to take in even more refugees than France had previously committed to.](http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/18/3723440/france-refugees/) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/258 "2015-11-19T04:51:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > And thanks once again for showing all that indeed you will carry water for the candidates that will push for fear and bigotry. Which would make sense if I saw it as a fearful response, or the bigotry irrational. But it’s nice to know Democrats are about to take their usual stance after losing an election: “the people failed us.” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/259 "2015-11-19T04:54:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Hollande has now promised to take in even more refugees than France had previously committed to.](http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/18/3723440/france-refugees/) That’s fantastic, now we don’t need to take in the 10,000. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/260 "2015-11-19T04:55:19Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Which would make sense if I saw it as a fearful response, or the bigotry irrational. > > But it’s nice to know Democrats are about to take their usual stance after losing an election: “the people failed us.” You are indeed telling us that you will be happy for that outcome. Sorry, you are lying to yourself too. The Republican candidates that are the front runners will divide America even more,\*\* and you will help on that effort\*\*. Regardless if you acknowledged several times in the past that what the Republicans are doing is stupid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798.md?page=14)