# adaher, you cowardly shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 17, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798 "2015-11-17T13:39:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/281 "2015-11-19T06:22:03Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The public overwhelmingly backs my position, so if someone wants to change this thread title to “Americans are cowardly shits” it might be appropriate at this point: > > [Poll: A Majority of Americans Oppose Accepting Syrian Refugees](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/poll-majority-americans-oppose-accepting-syrian-refugees-n465816) “It’s ok to be a fucking coward, because lots of other people are too?” I’m kind of curious. Does it feel OK getting out of bed in the morning if that’s the sort of standard you aspire to? You don’t even get slightly twitchy when you consider other historical events where people have tried to defend themselves with “Sure I did the wrong thing, but I wasn’t the only one”? Case in point: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/11/17/what-americans-thought-of-jewish-refugees-on-the-eve-of-world-war-ii/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/11/17/what-americans-thought-of-jewish-refugees-on-the-eve-of-world-war-ii/) > [@](#): > > The results of the poll illustrated above by the useful Twitter account @HistOpinion were published in the pages of Fortune magazine in July 1938. Fewer than 5 percent of Americans surveyed at the time believed that the United States should raise its immigration quotas or encourage political refugees fleeing fascist states in Europe — the vast majority of whom were Jewish — to voyage across the Atlantic. Two-thirds of the respondents agreed with the proposition that “we should try to keep them out.” By the way, consider the above question rhetorical, because I know fine an apathetic, self-obsessed, snivelling little bourgeois fuck like yourself is going to claim to be just peachy with what they’re doing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/282 "2015-11-19T06:27:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Why don’t you cite that the article says 750,000 Muslim refugees? It doesn’t. They were referring to the entire refugee population. Never said it was strictly Muslim. However, refugees have not been a problem. Got any concrete proof that ISIS is flooding the refugee stream with terrorists? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/283 "2015-11-19T06:42:56Z")
[State Department](http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/statistics/) stats on refugees. Notice the largest numbers from the Middle East(listed as Near East/South Asia) are from Iraq, Bhutan and Iran. Yes, we let in Iranians. I’ll bet that scares you half to death. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/284 "2015-11-19T06:45:45Z")
> [@](#): > > … ISIS is flooding the refugee stream with terrorists? That frankly sounds kinda stupid. Does ISIS imagine that the real refugees won’t turn them in? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/285 "2015-11-19T06:47:21Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > …Yes, we let in Iranians. I’ll bet that scares you half to death. Well, you know, one man’s Persian… ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/286 "2015-11-19T06:49:34Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [State Department](http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/statistics/) stats on refugees. > Notice the largest numbers from the Middle East(listed as Near East/South Asia) are from Iraq, Bhutan and Iran. > > Yes, we let in Iranians. I’ll bet that scares you half to death. Doesn’t scare me, but unlike you, i take threats like that seriously. So does Congress: > **[Hezbollah: "A-Team Of Terrorists"](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hezbollah-a-team-of-terrorists/)** > > Ed Bradley Reports On Islamic Militant Group > [@](#): > > Graham says Hezbollah has a global network of radical Islamic supporters, with enough operatives in the U.S. to pose a terrorist threat here. > > “It has a significant presence of its trained operatives inside the United States waiting for the call to action,” says Graham. That’s Bob Graham, BTW, not Lindsey. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/287 "2015-11-19T06:54:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Doesn’t scare me, but unlike you, i take threats like that seriously. So does Congress: > > [Hezbollah: "A-Team Of Terrorists" - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hezbollah-a-team-of-terrorists/) > > That’s Bob Graham, BTW, not Lindsey. That’s not ISIS. And if they’re a threat, how come they haven’t done anything? ETA: That article is from 2004. Wow. Some threat. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/288 "2015-11-19T06:56:30Z")
Probably because we’d invade Iran if they did. They are probably here as a contingency in case of war with Iran. But it shouldn’t be controversial that when you import a population you import the diversity of their politics. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/289 "2015-11-19T07:02:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Probably because we’d invade Iran if they did. They are probably here as a contingency in case of war with Iran. You should run for office. You’re more paranoid and bat-shit insane than anyone the GOP has to offer. ETA: are you trying to out-stupid **Clothahump**? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/290 "2015-11-19T07:18:43Z")
You don’t think Iran has operatives here? That’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever posted. They have operatives in Argentina for goodness’ sake, and they mounted an attack there on a Jewish Community Center. And it’s not like Bob Graham is some loony. He was merely the highest ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Community. What a moronic post that was. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/291 "2015-11-19T07:25:38Z")
More ignorance fighting for running coach’s benefit: > **[Operation Smokescreen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Smokescreen)** > > Operation Smokescreen was an American interagency counterterrorist operation to disrupt fundraising by Hezbollah, that took place in early 1995, ending in 2002. The operation involved the Sheriff's Office in Iredell County, North Carolina, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF), Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), and the U.S. Department of State's Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). > Detective Sergeant Robert Fromme made repeate... > [@](#): > > Operation Smokescreen was an American interagency counterterrorist operation to disrupt fundraising by Hezbollah, that took place in early 1995, ending in 2002. The operation involved the Sheriff’s Office in Iredell County, North Carolina, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF), Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), and the U.S. Department of State’s Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). > [@](#): > > Hezbollah cell begins operations in United States > > Hezbollah cell leader Mohamad Youssef Hammoud was denied a travel visa by the US embassy in Syria, after which he traveled to Venezuela.[1] After purchasing a forged travel visa, arrived in New York City in 1992.[2] By 1995, Hammoud set up operations in Charlotte, North Carolina, working at a local pizza restaurant. At least two additional members of the Hezbollah Charlotte cell entered the United States with false travel visas from Venezuela purchased for $200,[3] and three had travel visas issued in Cyprus.[4] Half the cell members were born in Lebanon, and the other half were US-born, of Lebanese descent.[5] Early in the spring of 1995, Detective Robert Fromme, working a second job at the tobacco wholesaler JR Discount (in Statesville, North Carolina)[1] observed the cell purchasing massive quantities of cigarettes, paying for them in cash. The cash was usually carried in large grocery bags, containing as much as $20,000 to $30,000 at a time.[2] ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/292 "2015-11-19T07:25:58Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > You don’t think Iran has operatives here? That’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever posted. They have operatives in Argentina for goodness’ sake, and they mounted an attack there on a Jewish Community Center. > > And it’s not like Bob Graham is some loony. He was merely the highest ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Community. What a moronic post that was. In 1994. 21 years ago. That’s quite a long game Iran is playing. And obviously Graham was wrong about the threat. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/293 "2015-11-19T07:29:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > More ignorance fighting for running coach’s benefit: > > [Operation Smokescreen - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Smokescreen) Fundraising and buying equipment to send back to the Middle East. Nothing about acts of terrorism here. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/294 "2015-11-19T07:32:36Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > More ignorance fighting for running coach’s benefit: > > [Operation Smokescreen - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Smokescreen) Yes, I can see why you’re scared of a cigarette smuggling ring operated as a fundraiser that was broken up 15 years ago. By this logic, during the troubles the IRA had cells operating in the US. Do you reckon they were “probably here as a contingency in case of war with” Ireland? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/295 "2015-11-19T07:55:59Z")
The IRA wasn’t a sworn enemy of the US. Hezbollah is. Please don’t join in the ignorance parade here. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/296 "2015-11-19T07:58:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The IRA wasn’t a sworn enemy of the US. Hezbollah is. Please don’t join in the ignorance parade here. Then list all the attacks by Hezbollah in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/297 "2015-11-19T08:00:45Z")
None so far, but neither I nor Bob Graham claimed attacks had happened. Only that operatives were here, which is an indisputable fact. I guess you think Al Qaeda stopped inflitrating after Sep. 11, 2001 too. I mean, there have been no attacks, so they must not be here. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/298 "2015-11-19T08:04:26Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The IRA wasn’t a sworn enemy of the US. Hezbollah is. Please don’t join in the ignorance parade here. A terrorist organisation at war with one of your allies, running fund raising cells in the US. Care to explain the distinction? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/299 "2015-11-19T08:07:40Z")
Hezbollah is also at war with us, and they consider their war to be against world Jewry, as witnessed by their attack in Argentina against a Jewish Community Center. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798/300 "2015-11-19T08:08:34Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > None so far, but neither I nor Bob Graham claimed attacks had happened. Only that operatives were here, which is an indisputable fact. > > I guess you think Al Qaeda stopped inflitrating after Sep. 11, 2001 too. I mean, there have been no attacks, so they must not be here. So all the war years, they did nothing. Even after we killed Bin Laden, they laid low, waiting for the \*right \*time to strike. Do you ever leave the house or just cower in the corner? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adaher-you-cowardly-shit/737798.md?page=16)