# Adam Schiff a known liar should be removed as the head of the Intelligence Committee

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 12, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753 "2019-12-12T14:09:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/81 "2019-12-12T18:47:05Z")

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Pigs in glass houses shouldn’t throw mud.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/82 "2019-12-12T18:51:39Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Pigs in glass houses shouldn’t throw mud.

True, but let he who is without sin be worth two in the bush.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/83 "2019-12-12T19:03:02Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> The IG report says Hillary Clinton killed Epstein. IT’S IN THE REPORT! READ IT!

Damn it, manson, next time spoiler-box that shit. Some of us haven’t finished the season one DVDs yet.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/84 "2019-12-12T19:04:11Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> What do you people have against people that want to **M** ake **A** merica **G** reat **A** gain?

They’re Republicans. Torture-supporting, science-ignoring, freedom-hating theocratic bigoted Republicans who will believe whatever nonsense they’re told to believe so long as the one telling them what to believe slobbers all over a flag while doing it and call that patriotism.

I don’t think Republicans are lowlifes because they support Trump, I think they support Trump because they’re lowlifes. He’s just their type.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/85 "2019-12-12T19:04:29Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> What do you people have against people that want to **M** ake **A** merica **G** reat **A** gain?

I’m just puzzled why these people are all so obsessed with how great Russia is.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/86 "2019-12-12T19:06:47Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> Adam Schiff has been proven to be a liar. Schiff’s memo rebuttal to Nunes’s memo has been shown to be false thanks to the IG report.
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> [Schiff Memo](https://www.vox.com/2018/2/24/17048764/schiff-memo-nunes-read-full-text-pdf)
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> [IG Report](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=26&ved=2ahUKEwjQw6DwpLDmAhUphuAKHf8WCLQQFjAZegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjustice.gov%2Fstorage%2F120919-examination.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3y7zu7Baw34PR5JHcQ9E-l)
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> There’s no excuse for Schiff’s lies, he had access to the same information as Nunes which means he knows better but still lied to the American people. Schiff has not credibility and should be removed as the chairmen of that committee.

:smack::dubious:

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/87 "2019-12-12T19:07:36Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> Damn it, manson, next time spoiler-box that shit. Some of us haven’t finished the season one DVDs yet.

Sorry. Season 2:

Hillary Clinton killed Nicole Brown and framed OJ. IT’S IN THE REPORT!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/88 "2019-12-12T19:11:38Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Pigs in glass houses shouldn’t throw mud.

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> True, but let he who is without sin be worth two in the bush.

There are two types of people in this world who mix metaphors. Nobody likes either one of them.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/89 "2019-12-12T19:15:58Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> But. . .but. . .Melania fixed the boolying, didn’t she? “Be Best” and all, y’see. Sometimes I honestly feel bad for that poor, deluded, trapped creature.

Me too. In the same way I feel sorry for all the poor, deluded, trapped creatures occupying our prisons. She’s always known what Trump was, and she voted for that with every fiber of her being. To hell with her. She should burn alongside her husband.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/90 "2019-12-12T19:19:16Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> What do you people have against people that want to **M** ake **A** merica **G** reat **A** gain?

Does [inviting a known anti-Semite to speak at a White House Hanukkah reception](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/robert-jeffress-white-house-hanukkah_n_5df1b1a1e4b01e0f2959c43d) “Make American Great Again”?

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/91 "2019-12-12T19:32:55Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> What do you people have against people that want to **M** ake **A** merica **G** reat **A** gain?

Do you know any?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/92 "2019-12-12T19:36:23Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> There are two types of people in this world who mix metaphors. Nobody likes either one of them.

Haters are gonna see me rolling.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/93 "2019-12-12T19:39:25Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Haters are gonna see me rolling.

Next time I see one of these cracks, I’m going to open up a can of do you even lift bro.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/94 "2019-12-12T19:41:06Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Next time I see one of these cracks, I’m going to open up a can of do you even lift bro.

These puns are really going over the dead horse on this motherfucking plane.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/95 "2019-12-12T19:42:21Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> These puns are really going over the dead horse on this motherfucking plane.

It’s all fun and games until too many cooks gather no moss.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/96 "2019-12-12T19:45:00Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> What do you people have against people that want to **M** ake **A** merica **G** reat **A** gain?

Why do you assume people have it in for you personally, rather than your presenting shit arguments ?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/97 "2019-12-12T19:47:27Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> It’s all fun and games until too many cooks gather no moss.

Make like a tree and spoil the bunch.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/98 "2019-12-12T20:00:51Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Make like a tree and spoil the bunch.

You can lead **EasyPhil** to water, but that’s as good as a wink to a blind horse.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/99 "2019-12-12T20:01:50Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Please, please, please don’t make me defend a brainless, partisan hack like **Easy Phil** , but, to my eye, Schiff’s memo certainly understated the reliance of the FBI on the Steele dossier (“narrow use”). The IG report is clear the dossier did not start the investigation, but it did conclude that it played a larger part in the obtaining of the FISA warrant.
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> However, EasyPhil clearly ignores the corroboration and myriad of other information that also went into the obtaining of the FISA warrant, instead focusing only on the Steele dossier and ignoring everything else. He does that because he’s a dishonest idiot.
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> I wouldn’t call what Schiff’s memo said a “lie”, but it was clearly spin that made a better case than actually existed.

Bear in mind I really can’t be arsed to read any of that shit (400 pages ? In another country, that I can’t spin into a paper on medieval this or that ? Fuck that right now), but I still say those statements don’t contradict themselves.

One says “the Steele Dossier was used to secure a warrant”, the other says “the Steele Dossier wasn’t really brought forward in the investigation”. Both of which can be true at the same time if e.g. the only use of the Steele dossier was to secure the warrant, after which point the investigation focused on information secured from the warrants.  
That might cast some shade on the propriety of the warrant if it turns out the Steele Dossier was BS, but if the warrant itself unearthed some prime dirt then that’s really neither here nor there. Only the beleaguered defense lawyer raises up on the propriety of the search warrant that found the 20kg of grade A marching powder stashed under the defendant’s bed. Because that’s all s/he’s got at that point.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adam-schiff-a-known-liar-should-be-removed-as-the-head-of-the-intelligence-committee/844753/100 "2019-12-12T20:04:20Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> You can lead **EasyPhil** to water, but that’s as good as a wink to a blind horse.

In the land of the blind, only the one-eyed die young and leave a good looking to pasture. And you can take that to the bank, mister.

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