# Add my name to the FUCK YOU MANHATTAN petition **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744 "2003-06-09T23:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/61 "2003-06-10T04:27:40Z")
Well, shit, I thought that if I bought that packet of information from Alex Chiu, then Time Cube would make the Ducks win. I guess I was educated stupid, too. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/62 "2003-06-10T04:39:58Z")
Ironically, I have an acute sense of deja vu, and I swear I’ve already seen this thread. Yes, I’m serious. Weird. Oh, and good job Manny. I can’t tell from your last post if you want people to fuck you or not, but if you do, and if you were a member of my gender of choice, then I would. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/63 "2003-06-10T04:44:44Z")
Sheesh! If it’s this easy to get some groupies to offer to fuck you “in a good way,” then where do I sign up to be a mod? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/64 "2003-06-10T04:46:35Z")
Whoa! I just had a vision, like a prophesy. Giant ducks stomping Manhattan. Huge webby feet crushing people in Central Park. Enormous duck bills descending from above and eating up crap from the Hudson River and making Tsunami waves on Staten Island. Ring me outta here. ---
**Author:** ![Horrifying\_Howler\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Horrifying\_Howler\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horrifying_Howler_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/65 "2003-06-10T04:59:43Z")
Manhattan, did you ever know that you’re my hero? (You are the wind beneath my wings) ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/66 "2003-06-10T05:36:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KGS \* > **Instead, manny called me STUPID. > I have issues with the word STUPID.** You know, that is tragically unfortunate. Kind of like a zookeeper who is allergic to animals… ---
**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/67 "2003-06-10T05:39:17Z")
I don’t see why manhattan called his beliefs stupid in conjunction with closing the thread. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s an idiot, but if the beliefs of his were, “God exists and had a son named jesus christ etc…” Then I suspect less people would be so quick to jump up and qualify it stupid. Double standard? Or am I misinterpreting this? (This is only IF that guy is serious) ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/68 "2003-06-10T06:10:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ryle Dup \* > \*\*I don’t see why manhattan called his beliefs stupid in conjunction with closing the thread. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s an idiot, but if the beliefs of his were, “God exists and had a son named jesus christ etc…” Then I suspect less people would be so quick to jump up and qualify it stupid. > > Double standard? Or am I misinterpreting this? > (This is only IF that guy is serious) \*\* Keeping in mind that the purpose of this board is to fight ignorance: I think the difference is that the beliefs of mainstream Christians (to use your example) cannot be proved or disproved. For example, how would you go about proving or disproving that Jesus is the son of God? or that there is a heaven? or that there is a soul? Any good Christian will admit this. Indeed, this is the very definition of faith: belief without proof. To believe something that cannot be either proved or disproved isn’t necessarily ignorant. However, to believe in psychic phenomena (such as clairvoyance) is ignorant, pure and simple, because it can be easily disproved. If **KGS** can really see the future, then he should go over to James Randi and claim the million bucks. Of course, every time he fails he can claim that something went wrong—that he shouldn’t have taken notes or something—and every time he succeeds it won’t be in a scientifically sound way. It’s ignorant to believe in an ability that must have a foundation in science in order to exist, yet cannot be measured by science. So, I certainly can’t fault **manhattan** for calling ignorant beliefs stupid. ---
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/69 "2003-06-10T06:20:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Loopus \* > \*\ ***manhattan** is now my personal hero. If I used a sig, I would put “Stupidity is not a religion” in it. > > I agree he was a bit abrasive, but what do you expect from posting stupid stuff in GQ? \*\* Actually, I think a more appropriate tagline for **KGS** would be “Stupidity is not a religion. It’s a way of life.” Because that’s sure how he seems to be living it. ---
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/70 "2003-06-10T06:49:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by manhattan \* > \*\*Actually, I called your beliefs stupid. Which, for the record, they are. Stu-fucking-id. Not lightly stupid – heavy stupid. Like, Roseanne dancing with John Goodman on Jupiter stupid. \*\* But is it really appropriate for a Mod to do so? Especially for someone who is supposed to be enforcing the rules (i.e. no insulting in the GQ forum)? Kind of hypocritical don’t you think? I’m not being sarcastic, I’m just curious. Is it okay to insult someone’s ideas in the GQ forum (like you did in the above quote) as long as you are not directly insulting that person? I don’t know. I’d appreciate a little clarification. I’m not saying I agree with the ludicrous posts by KGS in that thread but it seems like it would’ve been easier to just close or move the thread without the frivolous commentary. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/71 "2003-06-10T06:54:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVeblen \* > \*\*Ditto with making your personal beliefs an issue. Don’t want to explain or defend them? Then don’t make them issues on a message board. Don’t post anything in public that you aren’t prepared to discuss in public. \*\* Eh?? Are you a servent of Manly Manny? (That’s my name for you now, **manhattan** you fucking whore. I can say that right? This is The Pit, right?? I am FULLY prepared to discuss my opinions in public. It is the public…at least, this insular cult of a message board, and this forum in particular…that is NOT prepared, to the point where NOT ONE PERSON will take my side. I will not explain why, but that fact alone reinforces my beliefs in what I believe. And there is a basic misunderstanding I have noticed in some people’s replies. THE MATRIX (movie series) IS FICTION. IT IS NOT THE SOURCE OF MY BELIEFS. PERIOD. Let me repeat myself – I DO NOT BELIEVE THE MATRIX MOVIE, OR THE MATRIX RELOADED MOVIE, ARE REAL. THEY ARE FICTION. THEY ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT ONLY. However, I _do_ see very strong parallels in The Matrix (movie) to my own “Matrix Theory”, just like I see parallels in other movies, religions, world events, etc. I have used the word “Matrix” to describe a specific aspect of my beliefs for a long time, since 1987 at least. I have people who can vouch for that, incluing one who is a registered member of this board. In any case, it is claer that just mentioning whatever it is I mentioned, is not acceptable here, not because I’m braeking the rules, but because…well, it is not acceptable. I don’t understand why. Therefore, I will not broach the matter again ANYWHERE on the SDMB. If anyone (there’s got to be at least ONE other person) is interested in discussing it, email me about it. (I’ll have to craete a special email first since I don’t have one in my profile, but that will be taken care of soon enough.) And since this is my parting shot, I’ll say what I wanted to say earlier, but ran out of time: **manhattan** , you are a disgrace to the city borough that shares your nickname. I insist (as a fellow human being, though I barely consider you one now, especially after you pretended to apologize AND I FUCKNIG FELL FOR IT YOU BITCH) that you change it that does not desparage the great city of NYC. I have _always_ loved New York, and I say that as a lifelong Californian / Los Angeleno / fan of underdog teams. I cried on9/11, just like everyone else, NOT only for the people who died, or for the buildings that were ruined, but for the city itself that was wounded that day. I cannot wait until they rebuild the WTC (the designs look GREAT btw) so that NYC can truly heal and move on. Once again, manhattan, please change your name. Don’t do it for me, do it for those who died. (I see on preview that there are tons of typos but fuck it…) ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/72 "2003-06-10T06:59:53Z")
London calling, now don’t look to us Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust London calling, see we ain’t got no swing Except for the ring of that truncheon thing The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in Meltdown expected… ---
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/73 "2003-06-10T07:03:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > \*\*London calling, now don’t look to us > Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust > London calling, see we ain’t got no swing > Except for the ring of that truncheon thing > The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in > Meltdown expected… \*\* Your point being…what? ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/74 "2003-06-10T07:12:42Z")
That you are stupid, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/75 "2003-06-10T07:15:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by manhattan \* > Stupidity is not a religion. Well, one might quibble with this on an off day. I might personally suggest this KGS person be removed from our midst for humanitarian reasons though. ---
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/76 "2003-06-10T07:23:12Z")
Nice lameass retort! (applause) Now how about posting something that actually has to do with the fucking topic of the thread dipshit? Or are you just retarded? On the other hand, this may be too much to ask. It might just be too much for your limited mental abilities. Hell, I can see your head is starting to explode just thinking about this. :wally ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/77 "2003-06-10T07:25:00Z")
KGS, is your other name MC Shampoo, by any chance? [http://www.matrix4.net/](http://www.matrix4.net/) ---
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/78 "2003-06-10T07:26:50Z")
That last post was of course directed at Desmostylus who may have trouble (with his limited intelligence and all) figuring out who that post was responding to. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/79 "2003-06-10T07:27:37Z")
**KGS** , fuck you. Fuck you right in the ass, you scabby, leperous sub-human. I don’t give a damn about your brain-damaged beliefs. Go ahead, rant about Power Pyramids and magic meteors. I’ll be sure to drop a dime in your paper cup when I see you ranting about it on the street corner. But your last post, you crossed the line from harmless kook to offensive piece of shit. Using 9/11 as ammo in your petty anti-mod vendetta is one of the lowest, most repulsive things I’ve ever seen on this board, you toothless hobgoblin. To use it against someone who was actually living and working in NYC when it happened, who may very well have lost a friend or a loved one in the attack, is fucking inhuman. How dare you? How _dare_ you, you arrogant, deluded, gibbering ape? Find some other board to pollute, you septic filth. We don’t want your kind here. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/80 "2003-06-10T07:50:41Z")
Okay, **KGS** is a nut. I don’t care about that. I can and do walk past obvious loons every day of the week without paying them any mind. What I want to know is whether **Guin** ’s petition is still open and if we’re going in alphabetical order or what. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744.md?page=5)