# Add my name to the FUCK YOU MANHATTAN petition **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744 "2003-06-09T23:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/141 "2003-06-10T20:47:03Z")
OK, _now_ it sounds like he’s trolling. Trolling’s bad, m’kay? :rolleyes: And every time I read the word “CRAZY” all I could think of was, from The Simpsons, “My CRAZY friend Lisa thinks eating beef is bad. She’s CRAZY.” Esprix ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/142 "2003-06-10T21:12:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cabbit \* > \*\*KGS, manhattan owes you one. Not only did you do your best to make him look really cool, he got numerous shag offers in the thread that you opened for the express purpose of vilifying him. Make him buy you a beer or something. \*\* Tell you what. If manhattan flies me out to NYC and buys me a beer, I will gladly apologize to him. Or if he flies out here (but wait until July…our weather here sucks at the moment. **Esprix** …isn’t calling some a troll, well, a bannable offense? This really is amusing, because I know EXACTLY what is going on, and why you are goading me. You want me to say something so completely outrageous (more so than what I’ve already said, sorry again for the 9/11 comment) that I wind up breaking the rules BLATANTLY enough to get my ass banned. I’m amazed, really, that no mod has banned me already out of spite. What really got me was the “meltdown” comment. Haha, piss on that. Looking back in hindsight, I was seeing signs that a demonic attack from the Red Matrix was imminent, and I was right. Thing is, not only did it NOT work (pertaining to all you wolves attempting to drive me over the edge and possibly even kill myself, which wuld have been an empty gesture since you guys would have LOVED to dance and piss on my grave if someone actually told you that this petty thread drove me to suicide – you all feed on blood, after all) it has given me resolve to stay right here. And it also “fixed” something that was bothering me in the last few days (which I won’t elaborate on here, but I will in the GD thread, if anyone asks.) Ok, here we go: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189896](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189896) and please keep it civil. There are RULES on that forum, after all! (I hope!) ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/143 "2003-06-10T21:27:57Z")
**KGS** , unless this is all an act, you should stop typing on your computer and make an appointment with a psychiatrist. Right now. Seriously, you need help. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/144 "2003-06-10T21:40:42Z")
I’ll add, if it IS an act, you still need therapy. Seriously, I don’t like seeing another being in such conflict. Go get help, please? Meanwhile, stop doing things that will only bring you more pain and frustation, like posting while you are in this state. Write it down, if you must, but save it and look at it when your body is more healthy, healthy body=healthy mind. If you still think it’s worth posting, do so when you haven’t been on a binge of unhealthy behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/145 "2003-06-10T21:46:38Z")
Now now, the weather’s not all that bad. It does this every June, this little indecisive “Is it summer yet or not” overcast stuff. The Valley (I’m guessing that’s where you are, from your location) is even a bit warmer than most of the rest of the area. If you hadn’t already apologized for the September 11th comment, I would have joined the crowd calling you to task for it. As it is, I accept your apology, and I suggest that you refrain from whipping the events of that day out to use against anyone, Angeleno, New Yorker, or what have you, no matter how pissed off you get. That said – you keep saying “forget you guys, you’re silly and pathetic and not worth my time” but you keep comin’ back with big long posts. Make up your mind, will you? And quit getting your arguments and retorts from the playground. “If only you knew – but no, I’m not going to tell you” … “You just want to drive me to suicide!” … “That’s just what they said about Jesus” … please. What’s next, you’re rubber and we’re glue? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/146 "2003-06-10T21:48:15Z")
I dunno, with comments like: > [@](#): > > What’s funny is, if I were to tell you all…oh, fuck it. I’m not going to play this game anymore. > > I’ll just sit here and watch. Bunch of wolves, you all are. and: > [@](#): > > I’m actually enjoying this. … it’s kind of hard not to make assumptions. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/147 "2003-06-10T22:01:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Giraffe \* > \*\ ***KGS** , unless this is all an act, you should stop typing on your computer and make an appointment with a psychiatrist. Right now. Seriously, you need help. \*\* Well, I can’t see my shrink until Saturday, I’m still waiting a call back from what happened yesterday, and I emailed him these threads to get his opinion. (I’ve been trying to get him to move my appointment up in the week, but his main office is in SLO (200 miles up the coast, not that I mind the drive) and his schedule is busy as FUCK. Oh, and yes, we argue about my “Matrix Theory” A LOT. He doesn’t buy it, but after seven years of therapy, he’s at least starting to ACCEPT the fact that I truly believe in “Matrix Theory”, although he’s hesitant to entertain them. And I’m not on any medication at the moment (except Xanax, which I had to discontinue because it was causing problems. But that was several days before this all happened.) There, I’ve done it. I’ve admitted that I’m seeing a therapist for psychological and social issues. I didn’t want to go that route, because so many people would obviously read that as a “sympathy” post. I do NOT want your sympathy. I HATE sympathy. In fact, that’s probably why I haven’t “melted down” yet, in fact the hate and vitrol spewed at me in this thread has, believe it or not, helped me FAR more than it has hurt me. Believe it or not, I’m glad this happened. Things were getting a bit crazy in my real life, and this “wake up call” series of threads has really helped me come down. **Espirix** , kindly relent on your troll accusations. You are clutching at straws there. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/148 "2003-06-10T22:02:17Z")
There is no spoooooooooooon. [sub](I’m just saying)[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/149 "2003-06-10T22:09:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dragonblink \* > \*\*Now now, the weather’s not all that bad. It does this every June, this little indecisive “Is it summer yet or not” overcast stuff. The Valley (I’m guessing that’s where you are, from your location) is even a bit warmer than most of the rest of the area. > > If you hadn’t already apologized for the September 11th comment, I would have joined the crowd calling you to task for it. As it is, I accept your apology, and I suggest that you refrain from whipping the events of that day out to use against anyone, Angeleno, New Yorker, or what have you, no matter how pissed off you get.\*\* You’re right about June weather, it’s actually quite typical. April/May were unusual, though, with intermittent rain storms and heat waves. QUITE unusual for those months. > [@](#): > > **That said – you keep saying “forget you guys, you’re silly and pathetic and not worth my time” but you keep comin’ back with big long posts. Make up your mind, will you? And quit getting your arguments and retorts from the playground.** Well, please understand that I was working under rather severe stress (anyone read my “CPU overheating” post last week? That’s what set me down the path this past week…) Forgive my vaccilations, but think of it this way…whenever YOU get under stress, and become seriously sleep-deprived, doesn’t your world get, umm, a little “nutty”? And you are correct about my 9/11 comments being out of line. At the time, I thought they were perfectly appropriate, but I forgot that there are times, especially ones involving SEVERE STRESS, that I get things completely backwards, in the worst way possible. It’s a major issue that I am still dealing with, despite major progress in just the past week alone. Believe me, if I could turn back time, I would have NOT mentioned 9/11 at all. That was bad, bad, bad call on my part. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/150 "2003-06-10T22:16:36Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Jack Batty** _ > > There > > is > > no > > spoooooooooooon. I am _so_ going to unplug you after I get uploaded back into my body. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![CadburyAngel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@CadburyAngel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CadburyAngel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/151 "2003-06-10T22:24:25Z")
Enough people have reamed you, and pretty hard, so I’ll stay out of it except to say that, for more respect in future, consider renaming your Matrix theory. It sounds interesting in its own way… but seriously, you’re setting yourself up for trouble by using that term (even if you already had it in place before the movie came out). Just a suggestion for future reference. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/152 "2003-06-10T22:30:47Z")
The last post by KGS was a Simpsons quote, I don’t think he thinks he’s Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/153 "2003-06-10T22:35:12Z")
Soo…I’m the only one not allowed to make “Matrix Reloaded” references, here? Haha, that’s funny on many levels and speaks volumnes about the nature of this board (or this forum, at least), but of course I will reserve my comments – except to say, truly, most of you are NOT ready to be “unplugged” yet. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/154 "2003-06-10T22:41:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CadburyAngel \* > \*\*Enough people have reamed you, and pretty hard, so I’ll stay out of it except to say that, for more respect in future, consider renaming your Matrix theory. It sounds interesting in its own way… but seriously, you’re setting yourself up for trouble by using that term (even if you already had it in place before the movie came out). Just a suggestion for future reference. \*\* Exactly! Ever since '99, that’s been a problem. Before then, “Matrix” was my own baby, but now “Matrix” has taken on an entirely new meaning in our culture. DAMN YOU WAKOWSKI BROS!!! Heh…seriously, sometimes me and my friends (who have listened to me spout of on “Matrix Theory” for years) commisserate about how _I_ should have made a million-dollar movie about it, instead of waiting for someone else to grab the reigns. I’m sticking with “Matrix Theory” for now, at least for the purposes of this discussion (here and the GD thread.) Simply because to change names in midstream would be too confusing. Plus, I _love_ that word. It has many significant meanings, such as being a synonym for “womb” (something I picked up here on the SDMB…see? I’m learning something new every time I come here!!!) ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/155 "2003-06-10T22:45:02Z")
**KGS** , there is a message in the account I use for this board which is apparently from you. It will be deleted unread because I specifically asked you not to contact me privately. Given your behaviour in this thread, I have no desire for further contact you, and that is something I never thought I’d have to say to anyone around here. CJ ---
**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/156 "2003-06-10T23:23:11Z")
And I thought _I_ was crazy… Btw, sorry for defending **KGS** earlier. I realize now that he’s just plain insane. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/157 "2003-06-10T23:30:45Z")
**KGS** , really, I have to say again that assuming you aren’t yanking our chains (and your declarations of amusement at our reactions aren’t helping), why do you think that you had a vision that seemed to disregard the value of human life in comparison to the apparent importance of giving you the results of a hockey game - and then it misled you? Think about it - the vision couldn’t be bothered to warn you about many deaths of innocents, but gave you something that could be used to bet on, only to trick you in the end. This hardly sounds like a soul-affirming religion that you’re looking into. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/158 "2003-06-10T23:44:10Z")
**Siege** – fair enough. Considering your attitude, I have no desire to communicate with you either, on any level. Sod off. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/159 "2003-06-10T23:52:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ferret Herder \* > \*\*Think about it - the vision couldn’t be bothered to warn you about many deaths of innocents, but gave you something that could be used to bet on, only to trick you in the end. This hardly sounds like a soul-affirming religion that you’re looking into. \*\* How the fuck should I know??? Death is not a thing that concerns me, at least not to the extent to that other people. What difference does it make, if I have a vision that directs me to save someone’s life, or make a bet on a hockey game (which in fact I was going to do, as certain as I was, but time ran out before I could get that ball rolling. A lucky thing that was, considering what happened.) NOBODY can control the visions they have. In fact, nobody can affect the outcome. I am of the firm belief that, if time travel were possible, and you were able to go back to 9/10/01, and murdered all 19 terrorist who committed that terrible act of violence, it would have made NO difference, in the long run. Maybe not on 9/11, but perhaps on 3/11/02, 5/11/03, or even 12/15/69. I _firmly_ believe that certain events are predestined to happen, because it is PURPOSE at work, and we are all here on Earth to learn from them. And if the persons chosen for a certain PURPOSE decide not to do it (or are thwarted from doing it), it matters not…the Universe chooses another group of people to fullfill that PURPOSE. And if you disagree, well, that’s your perrogative. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744/160 "2003-06-11T00:11:33Z")
Prerogative. _Pre_rogative. **Prerogative.** I wasn’t going to say anything, but if you’re going after **Ceej** , I’ll go ahead and be a dick. I don’t give one tin shit about your worldview. But as has been quite adequately demonstrated in this thread, you act like an asshole, you get treated like an asshole. And **Seige** is far to kind to be an asshole to you, so I’ll take care of it for her. Fuck off, little boy. Or grow up, then fuck off. Your choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-my-name-to-the-fuck-you-manhattan-petition/180744.md?page=9)