# Add "Stargate" to the list of shows actively trying to make a comeback

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**Created:** [March 23, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504 "2021-03-23T17:14:29Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/1 "2021-03-23T17:14:29Z")

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In his podcast _The Companion_, Brad Wright stated that he’s been writing lines for Daniel Jackson.

> **[Next Stargate Project Might Have Daniel Jackson In It » GateWorld](https://www.gateworld.net/news/2021/03/next-stargate-project-might-have-daniel-jackson/)**
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> On his new podcast Brad Wright reveals to Stargate SG-1 actor Michael Shanks that he has recently written new dialogue for his character.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/2 "2021-03-23T17:24:30Z")

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Better this than Punkier Brewster.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/3 "2021-04-03T22:40:59Z")

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It could be fun if they finally drop the ridiculous conceit that the Stargate program is still somehow a secret.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/4 "2021-04-04T15:53:17Z")

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I think that, between _Stargate_, _Stargate: Atlantis_, and _Stargate Universe_, the series suffered from fatigue, or dilution of the creative talent. _Universe_, especially, had a very different tone than the previous two iterations, trying to cash in on _Battlestar Galactica’s_ “darker and edgier and sexier” cachet, and I think this threw fans of the two main shows. As well, _Universe_ was “slow out of the gate,” and struggled to find its balance during the 1st season, being all over the map thematically.

Plus, the entirety of the Stargate franchise has fought, and defeated, near-God-like enemies, so how do you “up” the villain drama? What antagonist can the creators come up with that Stargate Command and its allies haven’t already dealt with at the same level?

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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/5 "2021-04-04T17:56:35Z")

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I always rated Atlantis as the best of the series, got Jason Momoa after the first season, which is a pretty big star relatively. The right mix of humour and solid scifi unafraid to kill off a character here or there either.

For enemywise, the Wraith are pretty decent, with an aim to in effect eat the human race. Space goth vampires is what we called them.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/6 "2021-04-04T18:06:06Z")

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> [@Smid](#):
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> I always rated Atlantis as the best of the series, got Jason Momoa after the first season, which is a pretty big star relatively.

Though, at that time, Momoa wasn’t yet an established star. He’d previously been on _Baywatch Hawaii_, but it wasn’t until after Atlantis that he had his role in _Game of Thrones_, which is what I think really was his breakout role.

Back to the OP: I was a big fan of SG-1, though I ultimately felt that it went on for too long. After they’d finally defeated the Goa’uld, they had to come up with other big threats; I didn’t care for the Replicator storyline much, and I really hated the Ori, who seemed to have been specifically written to make the good guys’ abilities useless.

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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/7 "2021-04-04T18:44:45Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> and I really hated the Ori, who seemed to have been specifically written to make the good guys’ abilities useless.

At this point I referred to the series as Fargate SG-1. With the two stars of Farscape joining it, and I regard those ones as not really Stargate SG-1 at all, more like an Atlantis in all but name.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/8 "2021-04-04T19:27:35Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> What antagonist can the creators come up with that Stargate Command and its allies haven’t already dealt with at the same level?

Q? Mix the virtually godlike powers of the Q collective with the insane lack of touch with reality you find in QAnon, and you really have something.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/add-stargate-to-the-list-of-shows-actively-trying-to-make-a-comeback/938504/9 "2021-04-05T20:14:56Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> I think that, between _Stargate_ , _Stargate: Atlantis_ , and _Stargate Universe_ , the series suffered from fatigue, or dilution of the creative talent. _Universe_ , especially, had a very different tone than the previous two iterations, trying to cash in on _Battlestar Galactica’s_ “darker and edgier and sexier” cachet, and I think this threw fans of the two main shows. As well, _Universe_ was “slow out of the gate,” and struggled to find its balance during the 1st season, being all over the map thematically.

SG:U had the sort of first-season growing pains that any SF series has. I actually liked the tonal shift, and thought the series had a lot of room to grow. Alas, I seemed to be in a very small minority on that.

But they did end on a cliffhanger ending that was actually pretty well-written to let them re-boot the series later on. With all but one character in suspended animation, but those suspended animation systems being just on the edge of failure, they have a built-in excuse for the characters aging (“The system wasn’t perfect”) or, if the actors aren’t available, dying (“Look, I _said_ the system wasn’t perfect, alright?!?”).

Plus, they had the best music director of any SG franchise:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cKVi3ODbjxM/maxresdefault.jpg "SGU Music: 109 - Worst Day Since Yesterday") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKVi3ODbjxM)
