# Addendum on Time Square Bombing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580 "2010-05-07T02:08:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/1 "2010-05-07T02:08:39Z")

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When the news of the Time Square attempted car bombing broke out all those liberal morons, those incessant nagging heads on MSNBC and the Internet immediatly leaned to the conclusion it was the Tea Party and other right wingers. Even Mayor Bloomberg did this. Funny how they ignore that the vast majority of terrorist attacks and attempted attacks on American soil or on Americans were by Islamist terrorists not by right wing fanatics nor left wing fanatics for that matter. Rush Limbaugh didn’t blame hippies when the 1993 WTC bombings happened for God’s sake.

Example of such folly: [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/may/03/times-square-bomb](http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/may/03/times-square-bomb)

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/2 "2010-05-07T02:10:52Z")

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Thing is, you made that shit up, cousin.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/3 "2010-05-07T02:11:50Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Thing is, you made that shit up, cousin.

I’ve actually posted a cite now.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/4 "2010-05-07T02:13:19Z")

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Good for you. It’s a school night – don’t you have homework?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/5 "2010-05-07T02:14:30Z")

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It’s not a cite; it’s an example. It offers virtually no support for the broad sweeping conclusions you draw in the OP.

You are, as per usual, a fucking idiot. Why don’t you go back to setting up “Jesus is the greatest guy in history” polls? That’s about the limit of your capabilities.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/6 "2010-05-07T02:14:46Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Good for you. It’s a school night – don’t you have homework?

Don’t veer off-topic. Anyways I’ve finished my necessary homework and will get off soon anyways.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/7 "2010-05-07T02:17:26Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Thing is, you made that shit up, cousin.

I correctly guessed the basic content of the OP when reading the title. And then I correctly guessed the responses when reading the OP.

Thing is, you are wrong. There were lots of posts on this very messageboard intimating that a tea partier did it.

I may link to some later if I’m feeling charitable (or Curtis LeMay doesn’t beat me to it).

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/8 "2010-05-07T02:18:28Z")

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Also, Curtis, is this your first Pit thread?

You may want to stick to MPSIMS and GD. Things are different here.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/9 "2010-05-07T02:25:21Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> I’ve actually posted a cite now.

Yes, yes. Of what?

Understand that I am a very stupid man and not at all a brilliant genius such as yourself. I have read the internet Guardian-talking you have cited. Please explain to me how it is an example of the phenomenon – the shit, if you will – that you did not make up.

Ah, **Rand Rover**. Hello. Please attempt to beat **Curtis LeMay** to demonstrating how

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> all those liberal morons, those incessant nagging heads on MSNBC and the Internet immediatly leaned to the conclusion it was the Tea Party and other right wingers. Even Mayor Bloomberg did this.

Of course, you’ll have quite an advantage in this little derby, because in addition to being an internet supergenius, you also see the future, which **Curtis** I think has yet to demonstrate. One can only hope that the combined demonstration-of-shit-not-being-at-all-made-up brainpower of the two of you in one thread won’t result in the spontaneous combustion of the entire internet, or worse, the fusion of all our brains into a Mung Bean-Roark supergenius singularity.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/10 "2010-05-07T02:33:19Z")

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So, before anyone had a clear idea who had carried out the attempted Times Square bombing, instead of rushing to judgement that the bomber might have been a nutbag of just about any persuasion, the press should have just rushed to judgement that he was a jihadist, have I got that about right?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/11 "2010-05-07T02:38:54Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> So, before anyone had a clear idea who had carried out the attempted Times Square bombing, instead of rushing to judgement that the bomber might have been a nutbag of just about any persuasion, the press should have just rushed to judgement that he was a jihadist, have I got that about right?

Curtis, this is what we in the Pit call “assuming you meant something you didn’t say and maybe didn’t even mean.” I told you they’d give you the business.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/12 "2010-05-07T02:39:32Z")

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He specifically named MSNBC I’m sure he has a cite for that accusation. It wouldn’t be like Curtis to unfairly disparage a ‘liberal’ news organization…

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/13 "2010-05-07T02:43:19Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> Example of such folly: [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/may/03/times-square-bomb](http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/may/03/times-square-bomb)

You’re posting an article about how we shouldn’t jump to conclusions about the identity of the bomber as evidence that people jumped to conclusions? I’m not even denying that some people do jump to such conclusions, but you found a pretty crummy article to use as an example.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/14 "2010-05-07T02:44:31Z")

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I never heard anything but the South Park thing before they knew who did it. Tea-partiers?

Damn. I’m part of the Internet. I hadn’t even heard. And I read all those Radical Left-Wing Moron Liberal Indoctrination sites!

I don’t get your link having a thing to do with your comments, OP. One mention, in the headline, of “Tea Partier” but you should try reading for context next time. It was referring to the fact that you can’t profile these terrorists as easily as you’d think because all kinds of people are getting in on the action these days. That’s all the article was about!

Not that it wouldn’t surprise me. I’ve seen some silliness on the Liberal side. I won’t lie.  
But everybody has their thing don’t they? Their opinion. Rush Limbaugh may not have blamed liberals for the first bombing but he sure as Hell blamed them for 9/11. Best not argue with that one because I’m not even close to well-read but I remember that one.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/15 "2010-05-07T02:46:42Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> Rush Limbaugh didn’t blame hippies when the 1993 WTC bombings happened for God’s sake.]

err…Didn’t Rush _just_ blame eco-terrorists on the blown oil rig?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/16 "2010-05-07T02:46:58Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> You’re posting an article about how we shouldn’t jump to conclusions about the identity of the bomber as evidence that people jumped to conclusions? I’m not even denying that some people do jump to such conclusions, but you found a pretty crummy article to use as an example.

Curtis, people in the Pit don’t read past the headline. If he had read past the headline, he’d see this:

> [@The article](#):
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> But it seems far more likely to me that the perpetrator of the bungled Times Square bomb plot was either a lone wolf or a member of some squirrely branch of the Tea Party, anti-government far right.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/17 "2010-05-07T02:49:02Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Yes, yes. Of what?
> 
> Understand that I am a very stupid man and not at all a brilliant genius such as yourself. I have read the internet Guardian-talking you have cited. Please explain to me how it is an example of the phenomenon – the shit, if you will – that you did not make up.
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> Ah, **Rand Rover**. Hello. Please attempt to beat **Curtis LeMay** to demonstrating how
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> Of course, you’ll have quite an advantage in this little derby, because in addition to being an internet supergenius, you also see the future, which **Curtis** I think has yet to demonstrate. One can only hope that the combined demonstration-of-shit-not-being-at-all-made-up brainpower of the two of you in one thread won’t result in the spontaneous combustion of the entire internet, or worse, the fusion of all our brains into a Mung Bean-Roark supergenius singularity.

Mung Bean?

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> So, before anyone had a clear idea who had carried out the attempted Times Square bombing, instead of rushing to judgement that the bomber might have been a nutbag of just about any persuasion, the press should have just rushed to judgement that he was a jihadist, have I got that about right?

It was more probable that it was a jihadist but they could have remained somewhat open-minded and not jumped to conclusions.

> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> I never heard anything but the South Park thing before they knew who did it. Tea-partiers?
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> Damn. I’m part of the Internet. I hadn’t even heard. And I read all those Radical Left-Wing Moron Liberal Indoctrination sites!
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> I don’t get your link having a thing to do with your comments, OP. One mention, in the headline, of “Tea Partier” but you should try reading for context next time. It was referring to the fact that you can’t profile these terrorists as easily as you’d think because all kinds of people are getting in on the action these days. That’s all the article was about!
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> Not that it wouldn’t surprise me. I’ve seen some silliness on the Liberal side. I won’t lie.  
> But everybody has their thing don’t they? Their opinion. Rush Limbaugh may not have blamed liberals for the first bombing but he sure as Hell blamed them for 9/11. Best not argue with that one because I’m not even close to well-read but I remember that one.

I don’t think Rush said “Liberals hijacked the planes and crashed them into WTC and the Pentagon.”

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/18 "2010-05-07T02:50:09Z")

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> [@Rand](#):
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> Curtis, people in the Pit don’t read past the headline. If he had read past the headline, he’d see this:

He named three possibilites for the perpetrators and says the latter two are more likely then a Muslim attacker. Then he writes multiple paragraphs about how we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. Thats not what **Curtis** claimed the article said. Its close to the opposite of what **Curtis** said. Again, I’m not even necessarily disagreeing with the OP’s thesis, I just think he found a piss-poor example of it. And he’s certainly wrong that its a purely leftist activity.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/19 "2010-05-07T02:51:52Z")

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I am constantly confounded why anyone pays any attention whatsoever to Curtis and Rand.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/20 "2010-05-07T02:55:14Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> err…Didn’t Rush _just_ blame eco-terrorists on the blown oil rig?

Apparently [yes](http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/limbaugh-environmentalists-square-off-blame-oil-leak/story?id=10542582)

> [@Limbaugh](#):
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> Limbaugh made his comments in a broadcast last Thursday in which he also blamed the oil rig’s explosion on an attack by “hardcore environmentalist wackos.”

At least the carbomb was obviously an actual terrorist attack.

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