# Addendum on Time Square Bombing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580 "2010-05-07T02:08:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/81 "2010-05-09T09:19:00Z")

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> [@flodnak](#):
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> History did not begin in 1993.

No, it began in 1997 when **Curtis** was born.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/82 "2010-05-09T10:07:46Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> …in 1997 when **Curtis** was born.

Allegedly.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/83 "2010-05-09T14:13:30Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Allegedly.

Just curious–why do you keep saying this? Everything everyone says about themselves here is “alleged.” We have no guarantee that you are truly a gay librarian in Alabama, and I could be a self-aware porpoise with internet access in a tank at Sea World. That’s just how anonymous message boards work.

If you have something you think indicates that CL is other than he says he is, then show that. Otherwise, it’s stupid and useless to keep pointing out the obvious.

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**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/84 "2010-05-09T14:25:47Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Just curious–why do you keep saying this? Everything everyone says about themselves here is “alleged.” We have no guarantee that you are truly a gay librarian in Alabama, and I could be a self-aware porpoise with internet access in a tank at Sea World. That’s just how anonymous message boards work.
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> If you have something you think indicates that CL is other than he says he is, then show that. Otherwise, it’s stupid and useless to keep pointing out the obvious.

When you first heard this story, who did you suspect was behind it?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/85 "2010-05-09T16:05:47Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> When you first heard this story, who did you suspect was behind it?

I’m not sure why you care exactly, but when I heard they were looking for a white guy (i.e., Mr. furtive sweater remover), I thought it was a white guy, probably with Timothy McVeigh-type motives (i.e., generalized anti-government angst). I don’t recall hearing about the story before hearing they were looking for a white guy.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/86 "2010-05-09T17:04:02Z")

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Well, based on the OP, you’d be one of “those liberal morons” for thinking that the suspect might be a white guy based on the limited information we all had.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/87 "2010-05-09T17:36:36Z")

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Perhaps memory fails, yet again, but wasn’t there some Muslimy guy who got dragged through the suspect shit before we found out it was Tim McVeigh?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/88 "2010-05-09T20:00:28Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Which one has the [epic beard](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=552784)?

No beards in the mail room - they might get caught in the postage machine. So, definitely not big **RR**.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/89 "2010-05-09T20:30:14Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> I’d like to mention that I hope whoever taught Mr. Shahzad to build bombs is not only not arrested, but has signposts placed around his residence by the CIA: “Bombing America taught here! Bring your own firecrackers.” Hell, we do more damage to the country on the 4th of July.

“Celebrate the independence of your country by blowing up a small portion of it.”

(My unbroken record of consecutive days that make me glad to be Canadian hold. We probably have as many Muslims as you, proportionately, but there isn’t the rampant fear and loathing here. We have more people here (proportionately, again) that hate our PM than people down there that hate Obama, but no one ever gets into the crazy batshit insane stuff your Obama haters pull)

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/90 "2010-05-09T20:44:04Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> When you first heard this story, who did you suspect was behind it?

I suspected some flavor of Islamic extremist dirtbag. We have:

- SUV being parked in a densely populated area set to explode and kill innocent people, including children

- a target that is not traditionally the target of homegrown nuts. MacVeigh target the Murrah Federal Building; the guy in Texas that flew a plane into a building chose the IRS building

Given this, at first blush I really don’t see how Bloomberg or anyone else should not assume that the Time Square attempt was not Islamic Extremist related. NOT doing so seems to me painfully irresponsible, and brings into question either the person’s intellect or some potentially deadly PC bias.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/91 "2010-05-09T23:54:24Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> err…Didn’t Rush _just_ blame eco-terrorists on the blown oil rig?

And Obama because he does not like offshore drilling although he approved off shore drilling. Somehow that has to make sense, Rush said it and he is always right.  
Did he find a way to blame the feminazis?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/92 "2010-05-09T23:58:19Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> … Given this, at first blush I really don’t see how Bloomberg or anyone else should not assume that the Time Square attempt was not Islamic Extremist related. …

At first blush? Umm, the suspicious White dude maybe?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/93 "2010-05-10T00:20:55Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> At first blush? Umm, the suspicious White dude maybe?
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> CMC fnord!

If that had been the ONLY piece of information it might have caused me to think the MacVeigh route, but it wasn’t. Also, when I saw what camera shot that the “it’s a white dude” was based on, I gave it very little credence. I even mused that I wouldn’t be surprised if that characterization was wishful thinking by some politically correct dolt—whether media or mayoral.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/94 "2010-05-10T01:15:41Z")

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Well, sure, ultra-lefty liberals like Boomberg, what else do you expect?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/95 "2010-05-10T02:28:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, sure, ultra-lefty liberals like Boomberg, what else do you expect?

“or”.

Pay attention.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/96 "2010-05-10T14:00:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Perhaps memory fails, yet again, but wasn’t there some Muslimy guy who got dragged through the suspect shit before we found out it was Tim McVeigh?

Not really. There were a couple of other white supremacists who were detained and later released, although [one of the UK dailies](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_%28UK_newspaper%29#Controversies) ran the headline “In The Name of Allah”, with a picture of a rescue worker holding a dying infant.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/97 "2010-05-10T14:05:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Not really. There were a couple of other white supremacists who were detained and later released, although [one of the UK dailies](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_%28UK_newspaper%29#Controversies) ran the headline “In The Name of Allah”, with a picture of a rescue worker holding a dying infant.

How unlike a News International company to stir up anti-Muslim sentiment…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/98 "2010-05-10T16:38:11Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Just curious–why do you keep saying this? Everything everyone says about themselves here is “alleged.” We have no guarantee that you are truly a gay librarian in Alabama, and I could be a self-aware porpoise with internet access in a tank at Sea World.

Hmmm.

Y’know that _would_ explain a lot…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/99 "2010-05-10T18:00:06Z")

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Wouldn’t that involve crossing a state line for immoral porpoises?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addendum-on-time-square-bombing/538580/100 "2010-05-11T03:20:59Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> So your entire rant is based on “guessing” what the mayor was “thinking”? Well done, take a seat next to **Rand Rover** and **Starving Artist** on a wacko bus to crazytown.

Look at the examples he gave, all of them more or less eupheisms for “right-wing/Tea Party terrorist”.

> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> No, it began in 1997 when **Curtis** was born.

I was born in 1996.

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