# Addressing with only ZIP code?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 10, 2014, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463 "2014-06-10T10:01:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/21 "2014-06-10T16:35:09Z")

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You can reach anyone in the GE company in Schenectady by using the Zip Code 12345. GE internal mail would look up the person and deliver it.

There are also some individuals who have their own Zip+4 addresses. In NYC, both Walter Chronkite and Isaac Asimov had them; if you knew them (and the post office put out a directory of all Zip+4 addresses at that time, so it was easy to look up), you could reach them with just the zip.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/22 "2014-06-10T16:55:28Z")

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Thank you, this is exactly the thing 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/23 "2014-06-10T17:10:48Z")

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Mad magazine showed a letter a reader had sent. It had just a picture of Alfred E Neuman and the zip code, but it still got delivered.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/24 "2014-06-10T17:25:19Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> My mom grew up in a tiny rural town, and nobody used addresses. They’d just address letters to “Name, Town, State”

If you mother grew up before 1963 in the US, that was pretty standard. ZIP (zoning improvement plan) codes came into usage at that time.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/25 "2014-06-10T17:47:01Z")

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Here in Oz large companies and institutions have their own postcode (Oz version of zipcode). My old university was 5005, a letter addressed to Francis Vaughan, 5005 would have got to me. Luckily my name is not common. The mail office would not have been amused, but they would have delivered it.

In Cliff Stoll’s “The Cuckoo’s Egg” he describes how he got to know a CIA agent called Teejay. Teejay asks Cliff to mail him his notebook. “Just mail it to Teejay, Zip Code 20505. It’ll reach me.”

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/26 "2014-06-10T19:09:34Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> Mad magazine showed a letter a reader had sent. It had just a picture of Alfred E Neuman and the zip code, but it still got delivered.

I remember that. That was something like 1970. And I believe there was not even a zip code.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/27 "2014-06-10T19:15:14Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> William F. Buckley once noted that he received a piece of mail addressed simply to “the insufferable Mr. Buckley.” No address, no nothing. But it got to him.

There was an anecdatum some years ago that Herb Caen, long-time (and now, long-deceased) columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle, once received a mail that was addressed only to:

(Graphic icon on a marijuana leaf) (Graphic icon of a walking-cane)  
San Francisco

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/28 "2014-06-10T19:24:02Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> You can reach anyone in the GE company in Schenectady by using the Zip Code 12345…

Wow, I have the same combination on my luggage!

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/29 "2014-06-10T19:43:09Z")

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There goes all my passwords…

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/30 "2014-06-10T19:46:01Z")

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As a kid, I used to address my letters to:  
Grandma, xxxxx, Texas

Now there is always a lot of grandmas in that town but only one "Grandma.’

We was proud little kids…

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/31 "2014-06-10T20:43:15Z")

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True story. Wife and I moved to Ovid, NY. Registered for a box [no home delivery] at the Post Office. Next day!!! Town population signs on the roads were changed from 559 to 561. Told friends about it and they mailed us a letter with name + zip code. It arrived two days after the postmark from Connecticut.

We later moved to Japan and the local post office not only forwarded the mail for longer than required, they kept up a letter writing exchange with us as well for the next two years. This was early 80s; some small town things were awesome.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/32 "2014-06-10T22:12:00Z")

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> [@TheLoadedDog](#):
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> One that sticks in my memory (and that I ended up hitting the telephone directories for) was to a Chinese restaurant in Sydney, obviously from a non English-speaking relative in mainland China who had copied what he thought was the address from a menu or business card. From memory, it went something like this:
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> Red Dragon Chinese Restaurant  
> Eat-in or take-away  
> BYO  
> No MSG  
> Let us cater for your next office function

He might have a future as a [road sign translator in Wales](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm).

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/33 "2014-06-11T07:06:43Z")

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One address I will always remember is for the Christian radio series “Adventures in Odyssey”: Adventures in Odyssey, Colorado Springs, CO 80995. No street address, just the name of the program/company and City/State/ZIP.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/34 "2014-06-11T07:20:50Z")

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Frequently get things from nutjobs:

Things like:

El Presidente Barak  
Amerika

The Queen  
Britton  
I assume they get there.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/35 "2014-06-11T07:31:30Z")

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Also, one of the biggest “customers” each year is Santa Claus. Most postal administrations assign a code to it, the most famous being Canada’s (a place which uses alpha-numeric codes) with H0H0H0.

“Santa” and the code will get there. “Santa” alone will also get there (“there” being an office that sends a Santa reply to the kids - I believe our Canadian friends were the first to initiate this custom too). Bonus points for a) the address being in crayon, b) each letter being a different colour, and c) jackpot for the S in “Santa” being backwards. Brings a smile to jaded sorters’ faces, that does.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/36 "2014-06-11T09:43:02Z")

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We have postcodes instead of zips, and their uses have gone far beyond simply sorting mail. In particular, the Insurance companies use them for assessing risk. If you live in a postcode with a bad crime rate, your insurance premiums will be more expensive.

Of course this can create problems for people who happen to live just on the wrong side of the the boundary between a low-crime area and a better one.

There was a strange story that happened in Manchester. The occupants of six houses (three semi-detached pairs) found themselves at a disadvantage to all of their neighbours. Investigation showed that when postcodes were first introduced, the manager of a PO sorting office lived in one of them, and altered the boundary to put his house (and his neighbours) into his own district. This meant that those six houses had their letters delivered by a different postman to all the rest, and that they paid higher insurance premiums for their houses and cars. Conversely they got a slightly better deal on life insurance.

And, yes. A letter addressed to Bob++, B98 xxx would almost certainly be delivered, although the house number would make it certain.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/37 "2014-06-11T13:42:31Z")

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I have some old letters addressed to my Mom or her parents with just "Name, Isle of Hope, GA. that were delivered just fine.

There is one that read "House with columns, White Bluff Drive, and apparently that worked as well!  
Now, granted, things have changed since 1949, but still!

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/38 "2014-06-11T15:28:17Z")

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> We have postcodes instead of zips, and their uses have gone far beyond simply sorting mail. In particular, the Insurance companies use them for assessing risk. If you live in a postcode with a bad crime rate, your insurance premiums will be more expensive.

Same with zip codes in the U.S., used for all sorts of non-mail geographic sorting including for insurance risk.

The suburb of Chicago that I grew up in (Norridge) is surrounded by the city proper and used to be served by two Chicago post offices, so everyone in the village had a 606xx Chicago zipcode. A couple of decades back, the community lobbied successfully for the zipcode boundaries to be redrawn so the village had one 607xx (non-Chicago) zipcode. The village didn’t get a new post office, and many people were served by the same office as previously, so this was entirely to have a non-Chicago zip code. IIRC, my car insurance premium did go down slightly. :dubious:

> [@](#):
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> And, yes. A letter addressed to Bob++, B98 xxx would almost certainly be delivered, although the house number would make it certain.

I’m in a mid-sized condo, so my nine-digit zip\* is entirely for my building. I have no doubt a letter addressed to John Bredin, 60016-xxxx would reach me at usual speed.

\*“ZIP+4” sounds odd and outdated to me, implying that the last four digits are not “really” part of the “actual” (five-digit) zip code. :smack:

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/39 "2014-06-11T15:34:21Z")

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I often just put the street number “425 ‘street’” and the 5 digit zip. can’t imagine they’d have any trouble getting it back to me. It might discourage some people from getting your address from old envelopes and sending you junk.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/addressing-with-only-zip-code/690463/40 "2014-06-11T15:37:39Z")

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One place I lived, the power company was “Gainesville Regional Utilities”, and people would send them checks addressed to “GRU”, and just, “GRU” on the payee line.

someone started looking for boxes with the flag up a few days after GRU sent their bills out…and found quite a number of GRU checks…that they changed to their fake bank account name, Grubeck, and cashed them.

Not exactly on topic, I know.

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