# Admirable Religious Leaders

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 21, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136 "2014-08-21T20:02:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136/21 "2014-09-12T06:19:35Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> I stand corrected . . . but it is the name conventionally given to the music.

Shrug, I’ve never encountered anything I heard called “Taize music”. Mind giving some examples? I suspect it may be what I’m used to calling “church music, Franciscan style” (very optimistic, very upbeat, and unlikely to offend anybody but a professional offense-taker).

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136/22 "2014-09-12T13:18:03Z")

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Cardinal Jaime Sin in the Philippines was an influential and instrumental figure in the effort to topple the Marcos regime.

There were also Catholic Priests in Nicaragua who turned against the Somoza regime, which was nominally supported by the Vatican, and aided the Sandinistas. They chose to defend the side that supported human rights, rather than the side that supported the church.

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**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136/23 "2014-09-13T01:26:56Z")

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Spencer Tracy and his Boy’s Town 🙂

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136/24 "2014-09-13T09:46:20Z")

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I do wish Father Flanagan had had better luck with Charlie Manson.

My father’s favorite pope was John XXIII, because he smoked. I’d pick the current pope among the ones in my lifetime. Also, Ruy Lopez came up with a pretty good opening for White.

I don’t know much about Bishop Manning, but Cole Porter thought he was the top.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136/25 "2014-09-13T15:48:28Z")

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The Dalai Lama seems like a pretty good guy.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/admirable-religious-leaders/696136/26 "2014-09-13T15:58:00Z")

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In 1991, Jorge Serrano was elected president of Guatemala. As a protestant fundamentalist, he allowed and encouraged evangelists to enter and move about in Guatemala without visa restrictions, and in a short time, a large number of towns and villages were converted from Catholicism to fundamentalist sects of Protestantism. In each such town, there was an immediate reduction to near zero in alcoholism and consequently in domestic violence, both of which had been epidemic in rural Guatemala…

While the result was not necessarily a product of the designs of Serrano, his administration did open the door for a process that led to a social good.

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