# Adobe Creative Cloud apps on the new 12" Macbook - anyone tried this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 19, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029 "2015-04-19T05:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/1 "2015-04-19T05:21:19Z")
The [new Macbook specs](https://www.apple.com/au/macbook/specs/) are: > [@](#): > > 1.1 to 1.3GHz dual-core Intel Core M processor (Turbo Boost up to 2.6GHz) with 4MB shared L3 cache > > 8GB of 1600MHz LPDDR3 onboard memory > > 256-512GB PCIe-based onboard flash storage1 > > Intel HD Graphics 5300 Adobe Creative Cloud apps like [Photoshop](https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.html) and [In Design](https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/system-requirements.html) require: > [@](#): > > Multicore Intel processor with 64-bit support > > 1-2 GB of RAM > > 1024 x 768 display (1280 x 800 recommended) with OpenGL 2.0, 16-bit color, and 512 MB of VRAM (1 GB recommended). Supports Retina display. It looks to me like they ought to at least run, although I don’t know how the Intel Core M CPU compares to the usual i5/i7 range. The guy in the Apple store shook his head and said he’d be surprised if they even loaded, and they’d run terribly, so costing himself a sale. A bit of Googling doesn’t find anything about Adobe apps on this particular Macbook, only the older Air which has an i5 or i7 CPU. Has anyone actually tried this? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/2 "2015-04-19T12:03:16Z")
I don’t get it, why do you think it wouldn’t run? It meets all the requirements (and then some) 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/3 "2015-04-19T12:15:58Z")
Either the guy at the Apple Store misunderstood you, or he was seriously high. I use Adobe Creative Cloud on an early 2009 MacBook and it all runs perfectly fine. No reason it wouldn’t on that system. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/4 "2015-04-19T12:19:53Z")
Totally. And not only would it run, it’ll perform like silk. Those Macs can run some pretty demanding games and edit HD video in realtime. Photoshop and InDesign is peanuts compared to that. ---
**Author:** ![Francis\_Vaughan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/francis_vaughan/32/3093_2.png) [@Francis\_Vaughan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francis_Vaughan)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/5 "2015-04-19T12:49:01Z")
The whole thing sounds just odd. As if they guy in the store had not had even the most basic of training about Macs, and certainly not the new one. The Core M is a pretty spiffy beast. It comes in a range of variants, but is a very modern processor. Its big trick is low power consumption - getting about three times the bang for the joule as the i7. It is otherwise very close to the similar modern i5/i7 processors in capability, giving away just a little (enough that unless you measured it you probably wouldn’t actually notice.) Compared to a MacBook Pro with a separate graphics chip, it will be slower with Creative Suite for those operations where the GPU assist, or serious multi-processor codes, can bite - but for most things it will be not a lot different. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/6 "2015-04-19T13:12:50Z")
God, imagine if the Adobe Suite/Cloud wouldn’t run on newer Macs. You’d have literally millions of users going absolutely apeshit. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/7 "2015-04-20T02:30:29Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I don’t get it, why do you think it wouldn’t run? It meets all the requirements (and then some) 😕 Because, as I said, the guy on the spot said so. > [@Anamorphic](#): > > Either the guy at the Apple Store misunderstood you, or he was seriously high. I use Adobe Creative Cloud on an early 2009 MacBook and it all runs perfectly fine. No reason it wouldn’t on that system. Sure, but that’s got a real i5 or i7 CPU in it. I wasn’t sure how cut-down the M is compared to those, and halving the clock speed seemed to indicate there were some drastic compromises necessary to get everything in that razor-thin form factor. > [@Francis\_Vaughan](#): > > The Core M is a pretty spiffy beast. It comes in a range of variants, but is a very modern processor. Its big trick is low power consumption - getting about three times the bang for the joule as the i7. It is otherwise very close to the similar modern i5/i7 processors in capability, giving away just a little (enough that unless you measured it you probably wouldn’t actually notice.) That’s just the kind of thing I needed to know, thanks. Is the much lower clock speed an issue though? > [@cmyk](#): > > God, imagine if the Adobe Suite/Cloud wouldn’t run on newer Macs. You’d have literally millions of users going absolutely apeshit. It was just on this one Macbook model, he was sure it would work fine on the Air or Pro. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/8 "2015-04-20T04:04:29Z")
It’s not much slower than the Core i-whatever notebooks. Look at some of the benchmarks: [http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4210U-vs-Intel-Core-M-5Y70](http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4210U-vs-Intel-Core-M-5Y70) If it really worries you, download the Creative Cloud trial, put photoshop.app on a USB drive and try running it at the Apple store. ---
**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adobe-creative-cloud-apps-on-the-new-12-macbook-anyone-tried-this/718029/9 "2015-04-21T06:20:37Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > Sure, but that’s got a real i5 or i7 CPU in it. I wasn’t sure how cut-down the M is compared to those, and halving the clock speed seemed to indicate there were some drastic compromises necessary to get everything in that razor-thin form factor. Nothing to add other than to point out that 2009 Macbook ran previous generation Core 2 processors.