# Adolf Hitler didn't use chemical weapons?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 11, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254 "2017-04-11T18:16:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/21 "2017-04-11T19:48:13Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> How often did he use that phrase? If he only said it once I would accept incompetence – after all he is a spokesperson, but to be fair I think that some of the concentration/death camps today _are_ the eastern European equivalent of “Holocaust centers” here in America in that they have interpretive information about what happened there. Now, if he consistently used that term, then he either truly doesn’t know what they were called or is spinning for some reason.

Just based on the transcripts it seems like he had a brain fart and forgot about the whole gas chamber thing, then started to flounder around and dig himself out of the hole he’d just jumped into.

Stilll… holocaust centers, for all your holocaust needs.

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/22 "2017-04-11T20:02:08Z")

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I’m no fan of Trump, Spicer, or indeed Adolf Hitler but I think this criticism is somewhat unjustified, its pretty clear Spicer meant battlefield chemical weapons, not its use in the death camps.

There are a number of threads on the SD where this subject is discussed more calmly without the outrage being shown here, here are a couple of them:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=471461&highlight=hitler+chemical+weapons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=471461&highlight=hitler+chemical+weapons)

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=701579&highlight=hitler+chemical+weapons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=701579&highlight=hitler+chemical+weapons)

I think this is probably my first and only post in the BBQ pit, I read an article on the BBC website about Spicers statement and I wondered what the SD had to say about it.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/23 "2017-04-11T20:25:44Z")

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> [@Atomic\_Alex](#):
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> I’m no fan of Trump, Spicer, or indeed Adolf Hitler but I think this criticism is somewhat unjustified, its pretty clear Spicer meant battlefield chemical weapons, not its use in the death camps.

What point do you suppose Spicer was making in drawing that distinction? What value do you suppose Spicer sees in minimizing Hitler’s use of poison gas in the death camps? What conclusions do you think Spicer wants us to make regarding the US response to Assad’s use of chemical weapons?

If Spicer was arguing that Assad is even more evil than Hitler - shouldn’t the US’s response to Assad amount to something more than blowing up a single airfield (after warning people to get out?)

What sort of person thinks, “well, I mean, aside from the whole death camps thing, which wasn’t as bad because Hitler wasn’t bombing his own people …”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/24 "2017-04-11T20:30:49Z")

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Hitler absolutely used chemical weapons in the Bowling Green Massacree On Our Brave Soldiers. True (alternative) fact.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/25 "2017-04-11T20:33:03Z")

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I think Spicer decided to throw out a clever and witty remark.

I think Spicer didn’t put much initial thought into it.

I think Spicer now regrets trying to be clever and witty.

I think Spicer is not a very intelligent man; In fact, he’s incompetent.

I think Spicer should update his resume (…and leave the last 100 days off).

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/26 "2017-04-11T21:03:49Z")

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> **[PolitiFact - Did Adolf Hitler use chemical weapons? Sean Spicer wrongly says...](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/apr/11/sean-spicer/did-adolf-hitler-use-chemical-weapons/)**
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> Sean Spicer turned heads in the White House briefing room during a discussion of the situation in Syria when he wrongly

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/27 "2017-04-11T21:14:23Z")

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> [@Atomic\_Alex](#):
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> I’m no fan of Trump, Spicer, or indeed Adolf Hitler but I think this criticism is somewhat unjustified, its pretty clear Spicer meant battlefield chemical weapons, not its use in the death camps.

Trump and Hitler were heads of state. But speaking to the public is Spicer’s job. If he can’t communicate a message as simple as “using poison gas against people is bad and we’re against it” without screwing it up, why is he still employed?

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**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/28 "2017-04-11T21:27:45Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> Just based on the transcripts it seems like he had a brain fart and forgot about the whole gas chamber thing, then started to flounder around and dig himself out of the hole he’d just jumped into.
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> Stilll… holocaust centers, for all your holocaust needs.

I think DeathMart SuperCenter has a nice ring.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/29 "2017-04-11T21:28:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Trump and Hitler were heads of state. But speaking to the public is Spicer’s job. If he can’t communicate a message as simple as “using poison gas against people is bad and we’re against it” without screwing it up, why is he still employed?

No one better wants to be associated with Trump?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/30 "2017-04-11T21:31:57Z")

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So the White House’s official stance is Assad is worse than Hitler but fuck all those people trying to get away from him.

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/31 "2017-04-11T21:46:59Z")

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At least now we know the answer to the question of what you do as President, when your Alt-Right following starts to lose faith in you and begins to suspect that you’re just another tool of the Jewish shadow government.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/32 "2017-04-11T21:56:05Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> So the White House’s official stance is Assad is worse than Hitler but fuck all those people trying to get away from him.

Assad is worse than Hitler, so we need to stop his airbase from functioning for a couple of hours.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/33 "2017-04-11T22:02:11Z")

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Holocaust centers. What. The. Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/34 "2017-04-11T22:07:55Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> So the White House’s official stance is Assad is worse than Hitler but fuck all those people trying to get away from him.

A lot of Trump’s base wouldn’t have been in favor of letting Jews into America either.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/35 "2017-04-11T22:09:47Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> Did the Wehrmacht Experiment with chemicals and give amphethamines to their own soldiers to enable partly the Speed of Blitzkrieg, first without knowing, then without caring, about the aftereffects of the Crash and the addiction? From the evidence known today, yes…

There’s a [fascinating new book](https://www.amazon.com/Blitzed-Drugs-Third-Norman-Ohler/dp/1328663795) about rampant drug abuse in prewar Germany. A powerful opioid called Pervium, similar to Oxy, was available over the counter and pushed hard by advertising and doctors as “good for everything.” When it was finally made prescription, the rule didn’t apply to anyone in uniform. There was rampant stimulant abuse as well. The author makes the case that the whole nation, up to YouKnowWho, was drug-addled well into the war, if not throughout.

One of the great titles of all time, too: _Blitzed_.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/36 "2017-04-11T22:11:55Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> No one better wants to be associated with Trump?

I find that hard to believe. Fox News has a whole network of pretty people that are good at telling “alternative facts” with a straight face. None of them wanted a White House job?

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/37 "2017-04-11T22:13:13Z")

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> [@pohjonen](#):
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> I think DeathMart SuperCenter has a nice ring.

Watch out for falling… uh…

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/38 "2017-04-11T22:20:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I find that hard to believe. Fox News has a whole network of pretty people that are good at telling “alternative facts” with a straight face. None of them wanted a White House job?

What about Alternative Facts Barbie? I thought this would be her slot.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/39 "2017-04-11T22:22:43Z")

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I’m meeting Janie and Tad down at the Holocaust Center for malteds after bio class! You comin’?

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/40 "2017-04-11T22:33:25Z")

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Ironically, sarin was invented by the Germans and was being mass produced for WWII but the war ended before they could use it.

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