# Adolf Hitler didn't use chemical weapons?! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254 "2017-04-11T18:16:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/121 "2017-04-12T16:55:01Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Does Sean Spicer not know about concentration camps and death camps? What the hell are “Holocaust centers”? They’re part of the GOP plan to replace the Affordable Care Act. Spicer was just taking thr opporunity to float the idea in the middle of this briefing. > [@monstro](#): > > I’m torn. > > On one hand, I want the guy to be fired for incompetency. He’s had three months to get his footing, and every week he finds a way to step in it. A press secretary has a difficult job, true, but he simply should not be making these kind of errors. SMH @ “Holocaust centers”. I’m going to be cringing over that for awhile. > > But on the other hand, I want him to stick around. The gaffs are entertaining. And his incompetency makes Trump look bad. The last thing I want to see is some silver-tongue sophisticate standing at the podium, giving the administration a hint of credibility. As long as Spicey is there, the shitshow that is the White House will be apparent to everyone who is paying attention. #LetHimMisspeak > [@Sailboat](#): > > Everything about this story is mind-boggling. Spicer was wrong on every count and wrong in every correction and did it on the first day of Passover, for crying out loud. His intention (to paint Assad as a Hitler equivalent) was also wrong. > > Let’s get one thing straight: The Germans DID use chemical weapons on soldiers from the air (see the picture [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare#Nazi_Germany)). Furthermore, Assad has done so twice (apparently) and the Germans did so at least twice, depending on how you count, and entirely ignoring Zyklon B. Yeah, but they were Russian soldiers, so not real people. > [@Shodan](#): > > So you are denying that the Holocaust happened? Don’t take the bait. The poster in question is…slowly fishing. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/122 "2017-04-12T16:55:28Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > This is why politifact sucks: > > What Spicer said: > This is factually correct according to Politifact. Yet they score the statement as "Pants on Fire’. Why? > > No shit. Spicer says that directly. The whole ‘But (not) in the way that Bashar al-Assad used them where he went into towns, dropped them down, into the middle of towns.’ part. > > Then the article goes on to say: > > So, Spicer is lying for stating the consensus view of Hitlers use of chemical weapons. > > Spicers comment was not phrased well at all, no doubt, it was a stupid thing to say. However, Politifact notes that what Spicer said is the correct and accepted version of history even though he stated it very, very badly. > > Slee Here’s their conclusion: \*Our ruling Spicer said Hitler never used chemical weapons. The Nazi regime brought an industrial approach to mass murder of its citizens and others it sought to exterminate. The construction of gas chambers and the use of deadly gas was fundamental to that strategy. While the convention against chemical weapons did not exist in World War II, the modern definition would encompass the Nazi gas chambers. It makes no difference whether victims are brought to a room filled with deadly gas, or if the gas is sent to them in a bombing raid. We rate this claim Pants on Fire.\* ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/123 "2017-04-13T00:29:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > This amphetamine that provokes “raging boners”? Does it have a brand name? Asking for a friend… Pervitin I don’t think you’re going to like it ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/124 "2017-04-13T00:52:51Z")
Looked it up, its just plain ol’ meth. Which is evil. Weed good, coke wicked, meth evil. Now, I’m not a superstitious man, I don’t believe that if a priest snaps a cracker in two and mumbles some Latin, the cracker is holy. A cracker cannot be holy because a substance cannot have a spiritual quality, because it has no life. Meth is evil. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/125 "2017-04-13T00:56:40Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > Pervitin Shirley, you’re joking. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/126 "2017-04-13T00:57:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Looked it up, its just plain ol’ meth. Which is evil. Weed good, coke wicked, meth evil. Now, I’m not a superstitious man, I don’t believe that if a priest snaps a cracker in two and mumbles some Latin, the cracker is holy. A cracker cannot be holy because a substance cannot have a spiritual quality, because it has no life. > > Meth is evil. You know, I’m an atheist these last 40 years or so, and I think you could have made your point without shitting all over the Eucharist. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/127 "2017-04-13T07:26:04Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > You know, I’m an atheist these last 40 years or so, and I think you could have made your point without shitting all over the Eucharist. Why? The ones that get used end up as shit. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/128 "2017-04-13T09:24:50Z")
If you go for the textual meaning, he said Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons. Which is false. If you go for the overall message, it was justifying the attack on Assad because Assad is worse than Hitler. Seeing as he has no concentration camps, that is also false. This was followed by five clarifications, none of which actually fixed anything. He had to switch to an full unreserved apology, and even that isn’t accepted because he didn’t do it right away. And a horribly stupid argument, by someone _whose job it is to speak well_. He’s just as stupid and incompetent and malicious as Trump. Why does anyone feel the need to find the one way they can defend him? What’s the fucking point? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/129 "2017-04-13T10:55:16Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Why? The ones that get used end up as shit. You should consider changing your username to “Edgelord.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/130 "2017-04-13T11:28:16Z")
Why is it necessary to say someone is _worse_ than Hitler? Has saying someone is as bad as Hitler lost its punch? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/131 "2017-04-13T11:44:33Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Looked it up, its just plain ol’ meth. Which is evil. \*Nazi \*meth. Double evil ! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/132 "2017-04-13T14:40:13Z")
Now that you sorta kinda mention, has the mystery of meth’s invention been finally resolved? For a while, it was the Nazis, then I heard it was the Japanese. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/133 "2017-04-13T14:47:42Z")
The Germans invented _everything_ in your medicine cabinet. Th’ Bayer aspirin, th’ heroin, everything. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/134 "2017-04-13T14:48:23Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > Pervitin I thought for sure this was a joke. But, nope. Nazi boner meth was really called Pervitin. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/135 "2017-04-13T14:52:20Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Why? The ones that get used end up as shit. In fact, now that I think about it, you and Elucidator can both style yourselves as Ultra-Edgelords for talking so about the Eucharist on Holy Thursday/Good Friday. You’re both just so daring! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/136 "2017-04-13T15:03:43Z")
My admiration and affection for Jesus of Nazareth does not extend to those who claim to represent him. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/137 "2017-04-13T15:22:50Z")
Yeah, look what the fuckers did to Jeanne d’Arc. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxJSGMK9yRE) Church Judges: “When Saint Michael appeared to you…was he…naked?” (Leer) Joanie: “Do you think God would have been unable to clothe him?” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/138 "2017-04-13T15:27:33Z")
Was that Gertrude Stein in the starring role? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/139 "2017-04-13T15:33:39Z")
Mind your manners. Falconetti was a great actress, even if she only did the one film! [The Passion of Joan of Arc - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_Joan_of_Arc) See paragraph one. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254/140 "2017-04-13T16:24:26Z")
> [@constanze](#): > > In case you wanted to distinguish between “innocent civilians” and “convicted criminals” being gassed - the Problem is that in every decade, not just in the 90s, Projects have uncovered severe mis-trials in death Penalty cases. (not just formalities, but innocent People being sentenced). Many many many cases. So quite a lot of innocent People have been gassed to death in the US. No evidence for that. Possible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adolf-hitler-didnt-use-chemical-weapons/784254.md?page=8)