# Adult cartoons.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 7, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070 "2020-01-07T14:58:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/21 "2020-01-08T01:40:20Z")

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Well there is “Archer”, a serious bit of artistic endeavor.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/22 "2020-01-08T01:48:11Z")

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> [@Mavis\_Topholese](#):
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> Carole & Tuesday just dropped the last half of the series on Netflix: it’s a terrific show about a refugee girl and the daughter of an anti-refugee Presidential candidate who become a songwriting & performing duo and their struggle to get gigs, write songs, and survive music festivals, reality TV competitions and new-found celebrity. Their rival is a teen model pushed into singing by her ambitious mother and assisted by every technological musical device science can devise. And it takes place on Mars and is by the people who brought us Cowboy Bebop. Definitely a series adults can enjoy.
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> Any animated film by Satoshi Kon - Perfect Blue, Millennium Actress, Paprika, etc. - is going to deal with themes and subjects of interest to grownups.

I just came in here to recommend both of the things you recommended. We must have similar taste!

Carole and Tuesday was great and Satoshi Kon remains perhaps the greatest animation director of all time(look out, Miyazaki!).

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/23 "2020-01-08T01:50:36Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Star Wars has Clone Wars, Rebels and Resistance.

These are but latter-days shadows of the golden age of Star Wars 'toons exemplified in _Droids_ and _Ewoks_. Ah, whither 1985…

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/24 "2020-01-08T03:46:58Z")

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What are we defining as “cartoons”? Any animated films? Only short animated films? Feature length animated movies?

How about all the classic Disney animated movies? How about Fantasia, which was essentially a collection of shorts put together? What constitutes an “adult” movie? Were those Disney movies just for children?

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**Author:** ![Trisha\_Gaurav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@Trisha\_Gaurav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trisha_Gaurav)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/25 "2020-01-08T08:54:41Z")

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> [@CastletonSnob](#):
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> Why are most adult cartoons comedies? Why aren’t there more adult cartoons that are like The Sopranos or The Wire?

Because most adults don’t care for cartoons. My brother is the only guy I know who watches them. I personally can’t stand them (with the exception of South Park).

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/26 "2020-01-08T12:20:04Z")

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Another thought is that cartoon shows like The Simpsons are expensive to produce (per minute) and an hour-long drama would be double the cost of a half-hour comedy.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/27 "2020-01-08T12:42:10Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> What are we defining as “cartoons”? Any animated films? Only short animated films? Feature length animated movies?
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> How about all the classic Disney animated movies? How about Fantasia, which was essentially a collection of shorts put together? What constitutes an “adult” movie? Were those Disney movies just for children?

Adult movie usually means a movie just for adults. Those movies (well, some of Disney’s movies) aren’t exclusively for children, but they are for children.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/28 "2020-01-08T14:52:23Z")

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> [@Trisha\_Gaurav](#):
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> Because most adults don’t care for cartoons. My brother is the only guy I know who watches them. I personally can’t stand them (with the exception of South Park).

This is contradicted by the fact that there have been many successful prime time cartoons with adult jokes and themes. Kids aren’t the ones watching _BoJack Horseman_.

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**Author:** ![Mavis\_Topholese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Mavis\_Topholese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavis_Topholese)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/29 "2020-01-08T15:48:54Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I just came in here to recommend both of the things you recommended. We must have similar taste!
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> Carole and Tuesday was great and Satoshi Kon remains perhaps the greatest animation director of all time(look out, Miyazaki!).

It’s an unpopular opinion but I happen to think Miyazaki’s best late-period work has been his most kid-focused film, Ponyo. In terms of challenging technique and material, Satoshi was running rings around Hayao.

Masaaki Yuasa has been producing a lot of colorful, technically brilliant stuff and his “The Night Is Short, Walk On Girl” definitely fits into the category of animated films grown-ups can enjoy, if only to make older adults nostalgic for a time when they too could drink and party all night without the subsequent punishing hangovers.

Can’t believe I didn’t bring up Tuca & Bertie. This hits all the adult check boxes - relationships, careers, sex, drugs, abuse, making mature decisions about life, and a world full of imaginatively designed animal people. It’s from Lisa Hanawalt, who designed Bojack Horseman.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/30 "2020-01-08T16:01:06Z")

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> [@Trisha\_Gaurav](#):
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> Because most adults don’t care for cartoons. My brother is the only guy I know who watches them. I personally can’t stand them (with the exception of South Park).

It’s just a medium. As you yourself point out, it’s possible to make a cartoon that you like. Therefore, it’s not a problem with cartoons, it’s a problem with what you perceive cartoons as being – because a lot of them are.

It’s like saying “I don’t like books with pictures in them” because you have a predefined idea of what kind of books have pictures in them, when, in fact, it’s very possible to make a book that any given person would like, with pictures in it.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/31 "2020-01-08T16:39:02Z")

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> [@Mavis\_Topholese](#):
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> “The Night Is Short, Walk On Girl” definitely fits into the category of animated films grown-ups can enjoy

Have you seen the related series _The Tatami Galaxy_?

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**Author:** ![Mavis\_Topholese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Mavis\_Topholese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavis_Topholese)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/adult-cartoons/846070/32 "2020-01-09T16:05:49Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Have you seen the related series _The Tatami Galaxy_?

I haven’t had the chance to watch it, but it’s one I’ve heard good things about.

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