# Advanced dinosaur civilization

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 9, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advanced-dinosaur-civilization/965923 "2022-06-09T16:22:16Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advanced-dinosaur-civilization/965923/165 "2022-06-11T20:18:43Z")

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> What effect did the forty million years of non-avian dinosaur evolution preceding the Chicxulub strike have on what happened after?

So we’re back to the OP’s terminated clade?

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> Even a smaller disaster might have wiped out a civilization that had not yet spread too far from its origin.

Just how do you think civilization came about? _First_ was a multi-continent-spanning tool-using species, that _then_ developed civilizations at various loci. Not _all_ development in one Lost Valley. A disaster might wipe out the civilization itself, but not the path to it. That’s too ridiculous a notion to credit.

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> There is some evidence (not yet definitive) that the Youngest Toba volcanic eruption ca. 75K BP came close to wiping out modern humans, for example, and by that time modern humans were already dispersed to several continents.

Toba didn’t come close to wiping us out, bottleneck or not. We were already too dispersed for that to happen,

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> On a more limited scale, the Late Bronze Age Collapse and the collapse of traditional Easter Island society after 1600 show civilizations reverting to drastically simplified forms after a period of development.

Stuff we can all tell _by the abundant artefact evidence_. So even those collapses weren’t happening in some Lost Valley fantasyland.

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> If a dinosaur civilization had existed, what sort of environment would they prefer, and what would their tools look like?

They would look like worked stone and we can see that.

Unless you’re postulating a civilization that never used stone tools which - yeah, going to need more than Just Asking Questions for that one, thanks.

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> As a thought exercise

No, thanks, the dinosauroid was fantasy in 1982, it’s still fantasy now.

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> they construct shelters of wood and plant matter

Like I said to someone else - wood that they obtained, how?

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> maybe something like the wigwams and wickiups of some North American First Nations groups

Do you think Native Americans were processing their shelter materials with their teeth?

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> I think it rather difficult to argue that the builders of Gobekli Tepe had no civilization

I don’t find it difficult at all. The Gobekli Tepe culture is _not_ a civilization. We [already covered that.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gobekli-tepe-what-do-we-really-know/820508)

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