# Advice for a terrible WoW player **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 19, 2008, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512 "2008-11-19T20:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512/41 "2008-11-21T14:20:17Z")
Can I just say that I’ve never seen this wowarmory site before, and I think it’s just so cool!! (…having spent the last several minutes checking out my toons and friends’ toons) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512/42 "2008-11-21T14:46:01Z")
> [@Runestar](#): > > Can I just say that I’ve never seen this wowarmory site before, and I think it’s just so cool!! > > (…having spent the last several minutes checking out my toons and friends’ toons) I think Blizzard put that in about six months ago (or am I way off and it was a year?). ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512/43 "2008-11-21T15:53:52Z")
> [@Runestar](#): > > Can I just say that I’ve never seen this wowarmory site before, and I think it’s just so cool!! > > (…having spent the last several minutes checking out my toons and friends’ toons) I don’t know how closely you’ve examined the site, but there is a feature there that is very helpful to leveling toons. Beside each piece of your gear, there’s a yellow arrow. Clicking on that arrow will take you to a list of upgrades for that piece of gear…you’ll be able to see the stats on the suggested upgrades, and also learn how to get the upgrade…either where it drops or what guest gives it as a reward. ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512/44 "2008-11-21T22:25:04Z")
> [@BMada](#): > > When i read the small part in the original post about not being able to complete “yellow quests” solo which are non-group quests, I began to wonder how you play. > > Not all classes can actually complete yellow quests solo that require multi mob killing in a short period of time. Classes like Warriors have a hard time if you dont understand their abilities to the fullest and use them accordingly. On top of that you can’t just go in and hope for the best. > > Questions I would like to ask are: > > Are you using potions, scrolls, sharpening stones, getting stuff enchanted and using the many professions to your benefit? > > Are you aware of each races special abilities and use them properly? > > Have you ever leveled to the maximum possible and understood the class at that high end level? > > You only get better by playing more and more, not only do you gain experience in dps/tanking/healing in dungeons you gain the experience in battlegrounds. > > When I was a noob, I didn’t have much knowledge of my class nor all the others. As I played more and more on ONE single character to the maximum level, it all began to make sense. The role of the warrior in pvp and tanking all came naturally. At that point getting better didn’t require more playing but rather came with the use of macros, keybinds and UI customization. My twitch reflexes are good it was just a matter of mastering the class I chose to stick with. > > I pvp’ed plenty in pre Burning Crusade to the point of getting the Grand Marshal title. PVP is a whole different world. Not only do you need to master your own class, you need to know exactly what is the counter moves to all the other classes. Knowing how to beat a rogue on paper is all fine and dandy but all that knowledge needs to be practiced in gameplay. I can know that killing a rogue is all a matter of disarming, demo shouting, hamstringing, mortal striking, etc… but can I press those buttons in a timely fashion while constantly moving so I’m not a stationary pylon that gets beat up on. Practice does make perfect. > > I suggest to you that you stick with one class, learn that class to its fullest, and play more in the areas you think you lack in skill. > > One thing you should know as a hunter is the term kiting. If you dont know what that means, it’s simply keeping your distance from the mob/enemy. You should be firing your shots while moving away from the enemy, concussion shot or wing clip and keep your distance constantly. You achieve this effect best when you aren’t using the “S” key (or back pedalling/ walking backwards slowly) you need to be able to use your mouse to turn around in an instant, shoot arcane shot a sting, while holding still to get a normal auto shot in, then moving away till the mob dies. > > Again stick with one class, learn it, get better. > > If you can try to find an in-game mentor to teach you the ropes while playing. And if you can make 4 friends, 1 tank, 1 healer and 2 other damage classes and run dungeons together often. Dungeons are a great place to get item upgrades. Answering your questions: - Yes, the warrior I referred to has potions, sharpening stones and scrolls. I rarely go into battle without several buffs, even including being well fed. - I certainly make use of race’s abilities when I can. - As I mentioned in the OP, my highest level toon is 56 (except for my DK, who is 62). - I can play hunters better than any other class, so far. As I said above, I rarely get into trouble in PvE with my hunter. It’s PvP that seems to be my weakness, since I haven’t mastered how to keep players from killing me off. I’m not sure what the technique is to manage opponents that ignore your pet. To date, my efforts have concentrated on hamstringing and traps while backing away, but that’s been frustratingly ineffective so far. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512/45 "2008-11-21T22:57:31Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Level 73 and **still** feels like a “noob”???🙂 > > You remind me of the kids I went to high school with who used to say, “Oh, I just **know** I falied this test!”, and wind up the valedictator (torian, or something similar). > > Quasi Heh, I did that last week. Was absolutely convinced I had failed the midterm. No question in my mind about that. Then he handed them back and I had the top score in the class (by a 10 point margin). I still have no idea how I managed that. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512/46 "2008-11-22T09:10:15Z")
> [@Cerowyn](#): > > - I can play hunters better than any other class, so far. As I said above, I rarely get into trouble in PvE with my hunter. It’s PvP that seems to be my weakness, since I haven’t mastered how to keep players from killing me off. I’m not sure what the technique is to manage opponents that ignore your pet. To date, my efforts have concentrated on hamstringing and traps while backing away, but that’s been frustratingly ineffective so far. I’m not a hunter expert, and I’m mostly a PvE hunter, but Beast Mastery seems to be the PvP spec. Why? Because in PvP your Pet is basically a killable Damage over Time spell, however nobody WILL kill it, because then you get to use YOUR attacks while they’re busy. I don’t know if it still is, but bestial wrath used to be the original “fuck you” spell in PvP. The key is mainly what you’re doing already, but minus the traps (unless you’re in mass PvP or you get the jump on someone, in which case things change a little). Basically you’re gonna wanna hamstring/wing clip people and then try and use things like concussive shot after you get distance, also, you should ESPECIALLY use things like serpent sting (because it continues doing damage even if they get in melee, your weak element). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/advice-for-a-terrible-wow-player/473512.md?page=2)