Advice Needed: Moving Into a New Place With Nothing

If you’re going to have to find a couch, you may as well get one that pulls out and turns into a bed. That’ll take care of having to find a real bed for a while. Slap an eggshell mattress on that baby and it’s oh so cozy. A futon could work, too.

Now. I want you to go to your friendly neighborhood dollar store and get the following:

Dish towels
Bath towels (if they have a good price)
Cleaning products (409, Pledge, SOS pads, etc)
Paper towels (get a big package)
Febreze
Broom & dustpan
Trash cans (if they have 'em)
Pots & pans (you also will need a good cookie sheet, a pizza sheet and a good muffin tin)
Garbage bags
Dish drainer

You can get all of this stuff at the dollar store for about half of what you would pay at Wal-Mart. Watch out for Big Lots, though, sometimes they have good deals and sometimes they are waaay overpriced.

To learn how to keep your apartment clean, go here and obey the FlyLady. If you can just get into the habit of making yourself a routine you’ll spend a lot less time cleaning than you would if you let the place get really bad and then end up having to do a 5 hour cleaning marathon.

Sure… I’d love them. Feel free to post them here or mail them to me at aesiron@gmail.com. You too, Jadis, although I suppose I could just harass you for recipes via livejournal.

Thanks for the link to the cleaning site, Abbie… it looks like it’ll come in handy.

Anyone else have any further domestic tips for someone who’s used to mommy doing everything for him?

Toilet Plunger.
My opinion is that it is one of the first things you have to have in a new place, since about 75% of the time a toilet over flows is when you don’t have a plunger.

Contact paper or a towel or scarf over cardboard boxes make decent end/bedside tables.

Thrift shops are good, also if you are renting, ask the landlord if there is stuff other tenants have left behind that you can have for free or cheap. (Ask this just before the end of a month, when people are moving out. Often landlords are thrilled not to have to cart away the old crap that people leave behind.)

Ask for extra dishes from family, a few margarine containers etc will help with storage containers for left overs, (ie free tupperware)

Find out where the fuse box is, and get the appropriate fuses. Tinfoil has many uses. You always need duct tape for something. If you dont have tools, get a hammer, one of those interchangable screw drivers with the different heads in the handle, and a pair of pliers to start with. Little old lady scarves that are sheer coloured nylon work ok for window coverings to start with. Also on small windows like bathrooms or windows in a door, clear frosted contact paper can give a good privacy screen.

Re: Establishing good credit.

I’m on my way out the door, but here’s a link to bankrate.com. Scroll thru it for info on how to establish and maintain good credit, how to use it wisely, what a FICO score is, etc. The site is also a great clearinghouse of info on what kinds of rates are out there for almost every kind of credit (auto loan, credit card, etc.) out there.

MSN.com also has a personal finance section that has great articles on how to manage your credit wisely.

Good luck!

Maybe this is just a woman thing but I wish I lived near you so I could come help.
I’m getting ready to move soon as well and I’ve had this urge to “nest.”

I want to help too. :slight_smile:

Maybe after Ardred and I move up there, we can meet and greet.

As for now, don’t stress too much. Get yourself the basics as mentioned above and decide if you need a couch or a futon later. Have fun! You’re in a new place with a new apartment. Enjoy it!

You can live without credit, but you’ll want it as you progress in your life. You’ll want a car or a house, or even furniture and stereo equipment. Or a disaster might happen and you’ll actually need some money.

An easy way to do it is to save up money for, say, a new couch. This item might cost $500. After you’ve saved like 50% or so of the money needed, buy it on credit. You can put 10% down, make the monthly payments (because you already have the money saved) and pay it off early. Now you’re on the books, so to speak. When you want to buy a plasma TV, you’ll be established as a good risk. When you pay that off, you’ll be able to apply for a car. All of this stays on your record. So do all your credit blunders (take it from me…I was a slow learner).

Pay all your utilities on time. You’ll see in a relatively short time what good credit can do for you. Good luck!!!

Used to Mommy doing everything, eh? Oh, dear. It sounds like someone badly needs a copy of Where’s Mom Now That I Need Her?. It’s a compendium of things you need to know to live on your own, a combination cookbook, laundry guide, first aid manual, and car/bicycle maintainance manual. Dr.J has an old copy (no, really, judging by the author photo on the back, it’s from the early to mid-80’s) and it’s got some helpful stuff in there. Presumably it’s still in print, but if not you might be able to find a used copy on Amazon.

Most of the following recipes came from www.flylady.com and http://www.stiinc.net/recipes.htm , but the second sweet potato soup recipe is my own. My commentary on the others is between asterisks.

Thai Peanut Pasta
8 ozs. uncooked spaghetti or angel hair pasta
1/2 cup chunky peanut butter
1/4 cup soy sauce
1/4 to 1/2 tsp. red pepper flakes
2 green onions, thinly sliced
1 carrot shredded
Cook pasta according to package directions. While pasta is cooking, blend peanut butter, soy sauce and red pepper flakes in medium bowl until smooth. Drain pasta, reserving 5 Tablespoons water. Mix hot pasta water with peanut butter mixture until smooth; toss pasta with sauce. Stir in green onions and carrot. Serve warm or at room temperature. Makes 4 servings

This sauce is also good for stir-fry and for grilling. It also adds a lot to the dish to scramble an egg and put in and/or add a bit of leftover meat. If you want to go low-carb, this is also really great with spaghetti squash.

Caesar Chicken Sandwiches
These are incredibly good, and the other night I unloaded groceries, made these and the garlic fries, unloaded and reloaded the dishwasher, and wiped down the counters–with about 45 minutes from the time I hit the door till I parked myself at the table. They’re just that fast and easy, and the recipe cuts down really well, so you can make two or three instead of a whole batch.

Serves 6

4 1/2 tablespoons flour
3/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
6 boneless, skinless chicken breasts (if the breasts are too big, cut one in half)
cooking spray (I use my own pump filled with oil)
9 tablespoons lemon juice
6 cloves garlic – minced
6 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
dash Tabasco sauce I skip this one, since I think Tobasco’s yucky
3 tablespoons walnuts – toasted and chopped (optional) I skip this too, since we never have walnuts around and I never think to get them
6 teaspoons grated Parmesan cheese
6 whole wheat sandwich rolls-- sliced
lengthwise (or your choice) 6 Romaine lettuce leaves

Combine flour and pepper. Coat chicken with flour mixture, shaking off excess.

Spray a 10-inch skillet with cooking spray for 2 seconds; over medium heat, lightly brown chicken on both sides. Combine lemon juice, garlic, Worcestershire and hot pepper sauce; pour over chicken. Cover; simmer for 15 minutes or until chicken is done. Sprinkle walnuts and cheese over chicken.

Arrange lettuce on Hearty Wheat Sandwich Rolls; top with chicken. Serve immediately.

Per Serving: 484 Calories; 10g Fat (18.4% calories from fat); 40g Protein; 62g Carbohydrate; 9g Dietary Fiber; 101mg Cholesterol; 648mg Sodium. Exchanges: 3 1/2 Grain(Starch); 4 Lean Meat; 0 Vegetable; 0 Fruit; 1 1/2 Fat; 1/2 Other Carbohydrates.

Baked Garlic-y Steak Fries
Serves 6

8 russet potatoes
1/4 cup olive oil
2 teaspoons garlic powder I think garlic salt works better, but that’s just me.

Preheat oven to 400 degrees. Scrub potatoes well, then cut into steak fry shapes. In a large bowl, toss raw steak fries with olive oil and garlic powder, tossing till well-coated. On a cookie sheet, lay flat steak fries (not overlapping) and bake for 15 minutes, turn fries, then finish baking another 15 or so minutes (depending on how thick you cut them).

Per serving: 162 Calories (kcal); 9g Total Fat; (49% calories from fat); 2g Protein; 19g Carbohydrate; 2g Dietary Fiber; 0mg Cholesterol; 6mg Sodium Food Exchanges: 1 Grain(Starch); 0 Lean Meat; 0 Vegetable; 0 Fruit; 2 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates

COOKING HINTS: Get your potatoes in the oven BEFORE you start on the sandwiches…they truly don’t take long.

SERVING HINTS: Serve a little salad if you like with this or do what we do: skip the salad and serve a bowl of baby carrots right in the middle of the table.

Spicy Sweet Potato and Smoked Sausage Soup
I haven’t made this one yet, but I’m going for it when Jonathan makes his next batch of chicken stock. (He won’t get around to it till cooler weather, I’m sure.) If you don’t have the patience or freezer space to make and store your own stock, you can buy it canned. You might even could use boullion cubes, I don’t know.

Serves 6

12 ounces smoked sausage – diced (optional if you want to go veggie)
3/4 cup onion – diced
3/4 cup celery
1 teaspoon cayenne (give or take, depending on how spicy you like it or omit)
4 1/2 cups sweet potatoes – peeled and large-diced
3 tablespoons flour
4 1/2 cups chicken stock
salt and pepper to taste

Saute sausage in a large sauce pan for 5 minutes over medium heat; add vegetables and continue to saute for an additional 5 minutes; add flour and cook for 2 more minutes; add stock, salt and pepper and stir until smooth. Simmer for 20 minutes until potatoes are soft. Give it a good stir and serve.

Per Serving: 336 Calories; 18g Fat (48.9% calories from fat); 11g Protein; 31g Carbohydrate; 4g Dietary Fiber; 40mg Cholesterol; 2439mg Sodium. Exchanges: 2 Grain(Starch); 1 Lean Meat; 1/2 Vegetable; 3 Fat

Tamara’s Sweet Potato and Sausage Soup

This is an eyeball recipe, and I tweak the ratios and seasonings as the mood strikes me, so just play around with it.

Peel 2 large sweet potatoes and pop in the microwave for about five minutes, then chop them up. Put them into a large pot of water with a pat of butter, minced garlic, salt, and pepper. Bring to a boil, then cover and reduce heat. Simmer till potatoes are tender. Sautee red onion (with or without smoked sausage), then add it to soup along with brown sugar, cinnamon, and nutmeg to taste. Simmer uncovered until soup is desired consistency. Can be served hot or cold.

You can also toss everything in a crockpot in the morning and then tweak the seasonings when you get home.

Garlic Lime Chicken
Serves 6

I’ve never made this one either, but it looks yummy and can apparently be veggied up, so I thought I’d toss it in.

1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon pepper
1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1/4 teaspoon paprika
1 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon onion powder
1/2 teaspoon thyme
6 boneless skinless chicken breast halves
2 tablespoons butter
2 tablespoons olive oil
1/2 cup chicken broth
4 tablespoons lime juice
In a bowl, mix together first 7 ingredients. Sprinkle mixture on both sides of chicken breasts.

In a skillet heat butter and olive oil together over medium high heat. Saute chicken until golden brown, about 5 minutes on each side. Turn down the heat, remove the chicken (keeping warm) and add the lime juice and chicken broth to the pan, whisking up the browned bits off the bottom of the skillet. Keep cooking until sauce has reduced slightly. Add chicken back to the pan to thoroughly coat and serve.

Per Serving: 343 Calories; 11g Fat (31.1% calories from fat); 55g Protein; 2g Carbohydrate; trace Dietary Fiber; 147mg Cholesterol; 612mg Sodium. Exchanges: 0 Grain(Starch); 7 1/2 Lean Meat; 0 Fruit; 1 1/2 Fat.

SERVING SUGGESTIONS: Roasted asparagus (preheat oven to 400 degrees, lay your asparagus in a baking dish or pan, drizzle with olive oil, salt and pepper and a smidge of thyme, bake for 10 to 15 minutes, depending on thickness of asparagi), baked potatoes (try Yukon Gold potatoes?delicious!) and steamed baby carrots (add a little butter after steaming and sprinkle some nutmeg on top before serving).

VEGETARIANS: Skip the chicken and use Boca Chikin patties instead. Dip the chikin patty in the melted butter/olive oil mixture before adding seasoning though (so it will stick). Works great! Did it on TV myself!

If you’re buying furniture from the thrift store, chances are it will all be mismatched. Invest in a few cans of spray paint (around $2.50/can) in whatever color and cast you like and spray everything to match. Silver, black, white, and other neutrals are all safe bets.

The advice on getting an air mattress is great. They’re cheap, comfy, and once you upgrade to a real bed the air mattress can easily be stored and used for guests.

Dollar stores are your best friend.

That sounds really cool and I’d definitely be up for it if you two are interested as well. I could probably get **Gr8Kat ** to give you some suggestions on things to see around here too… she’s done a good job of playing tour guide for me.

And thanks for the recipes, CrazyCatLady. They sound delicious, especially the sweet potato and sausage soups. I’ll definitely have to try them out at some time… I just hope I don’t wind up burning the complex down.

Do you have a washer and drier at your new place? If not, make sure you have enough towels and underwear to last between trips to the laundry mat.

:slight_smile:

Walmart has a great line of “summerwares” out right now-you can get plates and bowls and cups all for pretty cheap. They’re designed with picnics in mind, made of a sturdy plastic, and come in loads of bright colors. Around here, a 4 pack of bowls or plates goes for 89 cents. They’re great for cereal and stuff. I have at least 6 different colors…

Hey Aes! Looks like we’re in the same boat, as I am also moving into a new apartment. Although I don’t even have one picked out yet. My job starts the 19th of July, so I hope to move into a place the week before so I can get settled in. (For what it’s worth, I’m gonna be in the Saranac Lake/Lake Placid area of NY.)

Something my dad just mentioned to me, it may be worth looking into.

If you can afford it, take $50 a month (or $25, or $100, whatever,) and put it into an IRA. You keep doing this, make it part of your routine with every month, and then when you hit 60 or 65, BAM, lots of money to retire on. And IRA’s have some sort of tax thingy associated with them that make them better than just a savings account, I think, maybe not paying tax on the interest? Something like that?
Anyways, good luck to you, and maybe we’ll trade horror stories someday about things we didn’t know we needed until we needed them (a fire extinguisher comes to mind…)

When you start cooking, buy this book - it may be the only cookbook you ever need. Easy to follow instructions, lots of charts, pages of tips and techniques, plus delicious recipes for a wide variety of basic foods. I’ve gotten three marriage proposals from the beef stroganoff. :wink:

Yeesh, and I thought those people were full of scheisse when they talked about the “slippery slope…”

Next thing you know, people will be wanting to marry ramen! And… and amoebas!!

You’ll need time. It sounds crazy, but moving into your first place and fixing it up to your liking takes impossibly more time than you can conceive. You can easily spend your first month going to stores every single day to pick up something random that you don’t have-- like oregano, or a cutting board, or a colander.

So, when you do go shopping, buy stuff that can do double duty (a narrow mesh strainer can sift flour and drain pasta).

One idea is to go through your current abode and list everything you think you’re going to need. Don’t forget about lamps, some apartments don’t have a lot of overhead lighting. Get at least a cheapo $2 cutting board and a decent sized kitchen knife to start off with. Don’t permanently screw up your countertops by waiting to buy a cutting board.

I think back to my first night of grad school. There I was, in the living room, 13" TV up on a milk crate, me on a folding beach chair, and a pizza box on the floor. Not a bad way to get things started. :wink:

On credit… Get a credit card, but understand this. Credit cards are not money. The card is only a facilitator so that you can more easily buy the things you need. It should not cause you to buy things you ordinarily wouldn’t. It allows you to manage your cash flow, delaying the cash out part by a month or more. It does not give you more cash. The only reason people get into trouble with credit is when they buy things they can’t afford, don’t do it.

Feel free to use the card for things like gas and groceries that you would normally use cash for, then pay it off right away. If you’re forced to carry a balance for a month or two, use cash for these things so you don’t pay additional interest on that money.

Laundry.

I’m assuming you do not/will not own a washer and dryer, at least for a while. It’s certainly not a Day One necessity. A few tips for the Man Who’s Used to Mom Doing Everything:

• Separate your laundry into three categories: stuff that’s white or mostly white, stuff that’s all the other colors and heavy things like jeans, sweatshirts, towels and sheets.
• Never spend quarters! Every time you buy something and there’s quarters in the change, pull the quarters out and keep them in a safe place, like the Weekly Laundry Jar. Many laundromats do not have change machines (especially in apartment complexes), or you’ll just be scrambling amonst the car seats for change, like everyone else does.
• Cheap laundry detergent works as well as the expensive. Go for store brands. Liquid detergent vs. powdered doesn’t make much difference, but. If you use powdered, first you turn on the washer to get the water flowing. Then throw in the powdered detergent to dissolve the soap. Then throw in your clothes. Powdered detergent can clump up and not dissolve and just stick to your clothes. You don’t have to use fabric softener, but I highly recommend dryer sheets to cut down on static.
• Cold water works just fine. No need to worry about things like, “should I use hot water with whites, or cold water with heavy stuff or what?”
• The only reason I suggest separating out heavy stuff is because it takes longer to dry. You can keep it all together, but after about 45 minutes, open the dryer and pull out the lighter weight stuff that’s already dry.
• If the tag says dry clean only, do not buy it. They mean business and you can really waste money trying to launder dry-clean-only clothes.
• If you fold your clothes the minute they come out of the dryer, you can avoid ironing all together.
• If this entire do-your-own laundry thing just sounds like a pain in your ass, and you don’t have hours on end to sit idly in the laundromat watching your clothes go 'round in circles… drop everything off at a laundromat/dry cleaners. Most will launder your clothes for you at about $0.60 per pound. I found one week’s worth of clothes, sheets and towels cost me about $20 to have laundered for me, with 24-hour turnaround. I’d drop off my dirty laundry and pick it up the next day, freshly pressed, folded and ready to wear again. This is only slighty more expensive than doing it yourself at the laundromat, but far less effort and time. And you don’t have to buy detergent and dryer sheets, an ironing board, an iron and all that stuff. For me, it was worth it for a short time, and important note: I could afford it. But I quickly realized that a certain number of trips would just add up to the cost of a washer and dryer, so I bought a used set before I reached the point of diminishing returns.

If you live anywhere near an Aldi store, go in and shop. You will not believe how cheap their groceries are…and most things are of very good quality. They do not take anything but cash and debit cards, you should bring your own bags (or buy some from them), and it will cost you a quarter to get a shopping cart (which is returned when you return the cart). Mot of the things in there are repackaged name brands.

Do not EVER run afoul of the government and the Department of Education. EVER. Do whatever you have to do to make your payments. When you are young it does not seem like such a huge deal, but I can tell you from sad experience that the goverment never goes away and the interest on your loans, even if you have them in a forbearance, will mount up quicker than you can ever imagine.

Everyone who says anything at all about saving is so right. If you can save anything at all, you will be ahead of the game. When I was just starting out my eyes would glaze over when people told me stuff like this and I never listened…I’ll be 50 this year and oh, I wish I had. It’s very hard to put money aside when you’re struggling (what money?). Do it anyway.

Have a great time in your new place!

Cooking-wise, i’ve discovered that if i have the time, i can cook reasonably well, that’s pretty decent for a single guy living alone who used to live off prepared and canned foods, with the occasional trip to the local fast-food joint sprinkled in

once i put my mind to it’ i’ve come up with some pretty decent recipies, based largely on the high-tech concept of “Random Cooking™”

(i.e., get a bunch of random foodstuffs and mix them together and hope for the best)

Random recipies;

Microbrew Chicken;
pick up a bottle (or 6 pack, whatever) of your favorite local microbrew beer, i prefer either Otter Creek or Magic Hat
a bottle of Kraft Zesty Italian dressing
fresh dill (this is the key ingredient)
you might try some honey as well, i haven’t added it yet
boneless chicken breasts

combine the liquid ingredients in the pan, put a couple of sprigs of dill in as well, put the chicken in and put some dill on top of it, make sure the chicken is fully submerged in the mixture

shove it in the fridge and let it marinate overnight

the next day, when you’re ready to cook, take out the chicken, and make sure there’s a sprig of dill on both the top and the underside of the chicken

put it on the grill (i use a Foreman grill) and cook to desired doneness

the beer/salad dressing marinade makes the chicken incredibly yummy

Random Stir Fry;
take your Wok (you do have one, right? :wink: ) and put a small amount of Wok oil in it, then add in some onions, mushrooms (Shitake for authenticity, but any mushroom will work) and butter, let the onions sautee, once the onions and mushrooms have reached the required consistency (slightly mushy and carmelized)

add in a little more Wok oil, and add in other veggies, carrots, cucumbers, snow peas, carrots, peppers, etc…, whatever you have on hand, let them soften and carmelize, once they’ve reached the desired consistency, add in some Soy sauce and your favorite noodles (rice noodles, Angel Hair, etc…), let them soften up, as a final step, toss in some pre-cooked shrimp, stir it around a bit then add a little more soy

the final step before letting it stew in it’s own juices, add in a small amount of Sushi vinegar for the added kick

MMMM…Random Stir Fry

and just simmering now… Random Soup

currently, Random Soup is;
a couple of cans of mixed veggies
Italian style diced tomatoes
Stewed Tomatoes (whole peeled)
tomato paste
Red Kidney beans
Thai rice noodles
Sushi rice
Miso Soup powder
Dihydrous Monoxide

so far, looks good, quite tasty, the sushi rice is working too well as a thickener, i’ve had to add more water, it was turning into Random Vegetable Stew…

now i have a BIG pot of homemade Random Soup, enough to last me a week and still have some to share with the people at work…

Random cooking is fun and unpredictable, you never know what the end result will be, edible, or revolting?, so far my record’s pretty good, out of 3 Random recipies, all 3 turned out quite good…

i wonder how some Sushi vinegar would affect my Random Soup?, Sushi vinegar goes good with almost everything