# Aerial stunts with airliners

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 4, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024 "2019-06-04T17:13:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/41 "2019-06-07T21:26:33Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> **nearwildheaven** , the wings are flexing in the wrong direction in that video. The wings move the aircraft; the aircraft doesn’t move the wings.
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> Nor is CGI of inanimate objects all that impressive any more.

Which is why a good animator needs to have a very good grasp of physics. It is quite common for big budget movies to have CGI that looks “off” because the animators don’t understand inertia and cause and effect.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/42 "2019-06-07T21:37:14Z")

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I’m reminded of when **LSLGuy** [landed a 767-300 on an aircraft carrier](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=765351)!

Not for real, but he was an airline pilot in a real simulator, and had a chance to do it just for kicks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/43 "2019-06-08T15:27:52Z")

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> [@Richard\_Pearse](#):
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> Which is why a good animator needs to have a very good grasp of physics. It is quite common for big budget movies to have CGI that looks “off” because the animators don’t understand inertia and cause and effect.

In the commentary track for _Who Framed Roger Rabbit_ one of the animators said they’d deliberately made Jessica Rabbit’s boobs move opposite the way they should have.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/44 "2019-06-08T18:26:09Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I’m reminded of when **LSLGuy** [landed a 767-300 on an aircraft carrier](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=765351)!
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> Not for real, but he was an airline pilot in a real simulator, and had a chance to do it just for kicks! 🙂

Man I miss **LSLGuy**. Imagine how he’d blow this thread way…

ETA: But we still have **Richard Pearse** , who now has to work overtime.

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**Author:** ![joema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@joema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joema)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/45 "2019-06-09T16:22:23Z")

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> [@Hapax\_Legomenon](#):
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> …Any other notable cases of airliners being used in ways you’d only expect a compeltely different kind of plane to survive?

In 1979 on TWA Flight 841, a 727-31 went supersonic and pulled 6 g’s, yet the plane and passengers survived: [TWA Flight 841 (1979) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_841_(1979))

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/46 "2019-06-09T18:28:09Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> Nobody died.

Except hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/47 "2019-06-09T21:38:07Z")

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> [@Richard\_Pearse](#):
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> Which is why a good animator needs to have a very good grasp of physics. It is quite common for big budget movies to have CGI that looks “off” because the animators don’t understand inertia and cause and effect.

The Oklahoma capsizing in the movie Pearl Harbor is awful. It looks like the far side of the ship is floating up.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/48 "2019-06-10T01:46:37Z")

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> [@sps49sd](#):
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> The Oklahoma capsizing in the movie Pearl Harbor is awful. It looks like the far side of the ship is floating up.

Ironically, bad physics in CGI then leads to people thinking real life is wrong as it doesn’t look like the movies, e.g, 9/11.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/49 "2019-06-10T10:25:07Z")

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> [@Richard\_Pearse](#):
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> Which is why a good animator needs to have a very good grasp of physics. It is quite common for big budget movies to have CGI that looks “off” because the animators don’t understand inertia and cause and effect.

This is a pet peeve of mine, e.g. fighter jets that can pull 20 or 30 g and have a thrust-to-weight ratio on par with a top-fuel dragster. I wish they would use flight simulators to generate realistic flight paths/attitudes, and then import that information into their CGI machines for top-quality visual rendering. That seems like the best way to achieve both realistic dynamics and realistic visuals without incurring the massive costs of using actual aircraft.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/50 "2019-06-10T12:01:13Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Except hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.:rolleyes:

Nobody of any nationality died in the incident **engineer\_comp\_geek** referenced, nor did it lead to anyone dying. The fact that hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died of unrelated causes is completely irrelevant to that incident and this thread, and your post served no purpose other than to make a political potshot. Which is against the rules of this forum. This is an official Warning.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aerial-stunts-with-airliners/835024/51 "2019-06-11T02:11:22Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> Man I miss **LSLGuy**. Imagine how he’d blow this thread way…
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> ETA: But we still have **Richard Pearse** , who now has to work overtime.

Me too ☹

Don’t go anywhere **Richard**!

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