# AFA Douchebag strikes again

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022 "2010-11-17T21:22:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/1 "2010-11-17T21:22:05Z")

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Bryan Fischer, the crazy blogger at the American Family Association, has a new post up, and his panties are in a wad over President Obama’s awarding of the Medal of Honor to someone who saved lives instead of taking them.

[Link](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/bryan_fischer_weve_feminized_the_medal_of_honor_by.php?ref=fpi)

I’m linking to TPM to avoid giving clicks to AFA.

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> “So the question is this: when are we going to start awarding the Medal of Honor once again for soldiers who kill people and break things so our families can sleep safely at night?”
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> “We have feminized the Medal of Honor,”

You sanctimonious piece of shit. You, the scared little pussy who has never deemed it important enough to wear the uniform and swear the code to uphold the constitution, think you have a voice concerning the highest medal a service member can recieve? Fuck. You.

You deserve scorn, in a perfect world you would be hog tied and shot for sullying the memory of the men that Staff Sgt. Salvatore Giunta saved, and the ones he was unable to help.

As it is, we live in a free country, which is kept free by the actions of men like SSgt Guinta. You should be down on your knees thanking whatever god you bother that men like that still exist.

As a consolation, I will keep in the back of my mind the fact that if I ever meet you I will cock punch you so hard, your grandchildren won’t be able to have kids.

Sincerely,  
Yancey Lee Anderson  
Denver, CO

Look me up if you have the balls.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/2 "2010-11-17T21:32:13Z")

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What the…

Aren’t like 1/2 the Medal of Honor recipients received because the recipient saved the lives of soldiers either by covering them while they retreated or jumping on a grenade or something?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/3 "2010-11-17T21:38:54Z")

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Yeah. Bet they pranced around like little ballerinas before jumping on the grenade, too. And then flew into the air like fairies.

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/4 "2010-11-17T21:40:37Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> What the…
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> Aren’t like 1/2 the Medal of Honor recipients received because the recipient saved the lives of soldiers either by covering them while they retreated or jumping on a grenade or something?

Only the manly masculine ones. The feminized wimpy panty-waist types do stuff like braving concentrated enemy fire to bring back wounded soldiers.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/5 "2010-11-17T21:40:37Z")

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I’m really glad there are still Conservative Christian groups out there dedicated to the cause of spreading Christs Message regarding the blessedness of those who maximize their bodycount.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/6 "2010-11-17T21:51:53Z")

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> “So the question is this: when are we going to start awarding the Medal of Honor once again for soldiers who kill people and break things so our families can sleep safely at night?”
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> “We have feminized the Medal of Honor,”

Are we sure that this is not from _The Colbert Report_ (or an imitator)?

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/7 "2010-11-17T21:55:13Z")

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It’s so cute how he uses “feminized” to mean “degraded”, I mean, if it weren’t insulting enough on so many levels.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/8 "2010-11-17T21:57:51Z")

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Anyway, didn’t _Congress_ award the Medal? What was Obama supposed to do, veto it?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/9 "2010-11-17T22:03:28Z")

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I found the original AFA article. He’s taking flak in the comments but with some sycophants barking as well.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/10 "2010-11-17T22:08:47Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> Bryan Fischer, the crazy blogger at the American Family Association, has a new post up, and his panties are in a wad over President Obama’s awarding of the Medal of Honor to someone who saved lives instead of taking them.
> 
> [Link](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/bryan_fischer_weve_feminized_the_medal_of_honor_by.php?ref=fpi)

Fischer is clearly illiterate. Anyone whom read the actual action report knows that Fischer is full of crap. To wit:

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> He saw three individuals and then recognized that two of them were dragging Sgt. Brennan. Giunta pursued them, firing his M4 carbine, killing one (later identified as Mohammad Tali, considered a high-value target). Giunta wounded the second enemy, who dropped Brennan and fled.

Over all, he engaged the enemy with grenades, small arms, and movement, resulting in one confirmed hard kill, one confirmed wounded enemy, and unknown other casualties, whilst preventing the capture of a fellow soldier, all accomplished under extremely heavy and effective fire.

Fischer clearly needs a brain transplant.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/11 "2010-11-17T22:11:41Z")

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Oh, yeah. [Desmond Doss](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Doss) sure was someone we’d never wish to show as an example to our military personnel. A total milquetoast. Recognizing his actions was totally cheapening the Medal, and what it’s supposed to mean. :rolleyes:  
(Let’s not even get into the number of Navy personnel who were awarded the Medal for life-saving efforts, or simply staying at their post while their ships sank.)

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**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/12 "2010-11-17T22:13:56Z")

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What the report didn’t say was that the M4 Giunta was firing was one of these:

[http://www.spareammo.com/posters/hello-kitty-pink-ar-15-ar15-m16-assault-flowers-kitten-m4-car-mag-rifle-pictures-girls-gun.jpg](http://www.spareammo.com/posters/hello-kitty-pink-ar-15-ar15-m16-assault-flowers-kitten-m4-car-mag-rifle-pictures-girls-gun.jpg)

[m16 rifle pictures](http://www.spareammo.com)

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/13 "2010-11-17T22:14:57Z")

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> [@Tranquilis](#):
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> Over all, he engaged the enemy with grenades, small arms, and movement, resulting in one confirmed hard kill, one confirmed wounded enemy, and unknown other casualties, whilst preventing the capture of a fellow soldier, all accomplished under extremely heavy and effective fire.

Yeah, but he didn’t have the common courtesy to die in the process. What kind of girl is he anyway?

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/14 "2010-11-17T22:23:43Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> Oh, yeah. [Desmond Doss](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Doss) sure was someone we’d never wish to show as an example to our military personnel. A total milquetoast. Recognizing his actions was totally cheapening the Medal, and what it’s supposed to mean. :rolleyes:

See, this is what’s wrong with America these days - What were they thinking, giving The Medal to a man who wouldn’t even carry a weapon? Our children will learn that sticking to one’s moral guns, braving insane odds, and saving dozens is all it takes to be called a hero, and where will our national bodycount be then?  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/15 "2010-11-17T22:26:27Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Yeah, but he didn’t have the common courtesy to die in the process. What kind of girl is he anyway?

It’s those sissy trauma plates. Clearly, they’re destroying our National Fibre. Why, if not for those commie hunks of ceramic, SSG. Giunta could’ve heroicly taken a round to the heart, and upheld our National Honor!

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/16 "2010-11-17T22:32:22Z")

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Just glanced at his bio. No surprise, he appears to have never served a day in the military. Just like most people of his ilk he doesn’t have the balls to do anything more than act like the giant poseur that he is. The minute that the civil war that these assholes so want commences, they’ll shit their pants so fast, their intestines will come flying out of their asses.  
Oh, and looking at that creepy picture on his bio, this guy is just begging to be caught in the act with a little boy.  
[http://action.afa.net/detail.aspx?id=2147486648](http://action.afa.net/detail.aspx?id=2147486648)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/17 "2010-11-17T22:39:01Z")

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> [@OtakuLoki](#):
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> Oh, yeah. [Desmond Doss](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Doss) sure was someone we’d never wish to show as an example to our military personnel. A total milquetoast. Recognizing his actions was totally cheapening the Medal, and what it’s supposed to mean. :rolleyes:  
> (Let’s not even get into the number of Navy personnel who were awarded the Medal for life-saving efforts, or simply staying at their post while their ships sank.)

[WALKER, DR. MARY E.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Edwards_Walker)

Rank and organization: Contract Acting Assistant Surgeon (civilian), U. S. Army. Places and dates: Battle of Bull Run, July 21, 1861; Patent Office Hospital, Washington, D.C., October 1861; Chattanooga, Tenn., following Battle of Chickomauga, September 1863; Prisoner of War, April 10, 1864-August 12, 1864, Richmond, Va.; Battle of Atlanta, September 1864. Entered service at: Louisville, Ky. Born: 26 November 1832, Oswego County, N.Y. Citation: Whereas it appears from official reports that Dr. Mary E. Walker, a graduate of medicine, “has rendered valuable service to the Government, and her efforts have been earnest and untiring in a variety of ways,” and that she was assigned to duty and served as an assistant surgeon in charge of female prisoners at Louisville, Ky., upon the recommendation of Major-Generals Sherman and Thomas, and faithfully served as contract surgeon in the service of the United States, and has devoted herself with much patriotic zeal to the sick and wounded soliders, both in the field and hospitals, to the detriment of her own health, and has also endured hardships as a prisoner of war four months in a Southern prison while acting as contract surgeon; and Whereas by reason of her not being a commissioned officer in the military service, a brevet or honorary rank cannot, under existing laws, be conferred upon her; and Whereas in the opinion of the President an honorable recognition of her services and sufferings should be made:

It is ordered, That a testimonial thereof shall be hereby made and given to the said Dr. Mary E. Walker, and that the usual medal of honor for meritorious services be given her.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/18 "2010-11-17T23:53:16Z")

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> [@Tranquilis](#):
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> Fischer clearly needs a brain transplant.  
> :rolleyes:

No, he needs a manly ass-kicking, something I’m sure he’d appreciate much, much more.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/19 "2010-11-18T00:24:20Z")

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It’s a good thing I’ve lost the ability to feel rage when professional douchebags do something douchey.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afa-douchebag-strikes-again/561022/20 "2010-11-18T00:31:51Z")

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This h_as_ to be an Onion story.

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