Do you have any idea how fast a highway repair project would eat through $100,000, much less a full building project? These things are budgeted for multi-millions or billions. A hundred grand would last a few days, and how many $100,000 cars are sold each year? (Clue: not many) Come back when you get an understanding of economics.
I know they aren’t mutually exclusive positions, they just have very little to do with one another. It was late and I was just trying to figure out what the fuck the OP was on about. It is not to me to sift through the chicken entrails of his thoughts to find coherence, and it did not become clearer as the thread continued.
Except you think its morally bankrupt for me to do more than provide for the needs of my family. And I own a very expensive car. And I travel. And I can put two children through four years of expensive private liberal arts college. My daughter is fifteen and has been to Europe twice.
In other words, I have more than it takes to simply provide for the needs of my family. At what point am I morally corrupt? Just for reference, I think you hit the point of questionable ethics the moment you spent $100 to give to charity while being dependant on your parent while complaining about the charity of others.
Hey, why attack me? Did I attack you? I knew people would attack me and ridicule me if I told the truth about my circumstances, but, I also consider it important to tell the truth so when people asked I answered.
I have some very serious problems with private colleges and expensive cars. That doesn’t mean I don’t think you should be allowed to own one or to send your children to those schools. I do think that mansions and really really expensive cars are a unnecessary luxury and the moral validity of that type of consumption can be discussed by reasonable people in reasonable terms. It seems like you think I am really really attacking you and your choices in life. I’m not. Not really. I fault a system of excess and materialism more than I do (most) individuals. And the last thing I will say is I am proud of you and your children. I know it must of taken a lot of hard work for them to get accepted to those schools.
I think the OP jumps from issue to issue, or cause to cause, in the threads the OP participates in. Check out the profile. OP will make dozens of posts in a single thread, then drop it when no one else is playing.
Is daddy’s house under a bridge?
Plus, although the date of his joining is 2005, the first listed post is in October of 2014
So the fact that I post erratically and have some opinions you disagree with means that you think it’s a good idea to insult me? Doesn’t your reaction really say more about you than it does about me?
Coming from the 15 year old living in his daddy & mommy’s house, talking to the functioning adult who has a job and a life, this is kinda funny.
Also–I noticed that you didn’t answer any question I asked:
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[li]Why are you on the internet, rather than getting a part time job to help feed the hungry? Doesn’t that make you morally bankrupt by your own standards?[/li][li]Do you live on the minimum healthy diet and donate all money that would go for fancier foods, or better tasting foods to the homeless? Doesn’t that make you morally bankrupt given that? [/li][li]Seen a movie recently? That’s roughly half of what it takes to feed a kid for a month. You selfish, amoral jerk. [/li][/ul]
So who are you to tell anyone else what morality is when you’re immoral by your own standards?
Wow? Why are you so defensive? Why are you so hostile? And BTW I never said people shouldn’t be able to have and enjoy basic everyday pleasures. My point is there is something morally wrong with excessive luxury when so many people have real problems and real suffering. If all you have to add to the discussion is personal insults and other similar attacks then I’m not going to bother responding.
Yes, you have attacked a number of people here, even if you appear to be oblivious to what you’ve done.
You can sit there and say you mean nothing personal by what you’re saying. But when you declare that you think something is morally corrupt, you’re also declaring that the people who do it are also morally corrupt. Don’t be surprised when people take offense to that.
Cute attempt at a rhetorical trick, kid, but you STILL haven’t answered a single question.
Look…it comes down to this: by your idiot “philosophy”, if you’ve EVER spent money on anything beyond basic survival, you’re an amoral child-murderer. So do you EVER spend time or money on non-essential stuff? Yes or no?
so how do you get from:
excessive luxury is immoral when so many people suffer
to:
if you’ve EVER spent money on anything beyond basic survival, you’re an amoral child-murderer
This is easy. There is no measure of excessive. Any luxury at all can be viewed as excessive, so any amount of money you spend for your own personal enjoyment is taking the food out of the mouths of starving children. In fact, your living with your father instead of working to provide for your own room and board is preventing your father from allowing these starving children to have a chance to live. How selfish your are!
Yes, there will be debate about where to draw the line between the two polar opposites but that does not mean there are not two distinctly separate polar opposites.
Cute, kid, but you STILL haven’t answered the question.
I’ll show you how it’s done:
Money spent on anything beyond basic survival is “exessive luxury”. By the stupid standards you implied, you’re saying that you going to see the “My Pretty Pony” movie and eating a jumbo popcorn is more important that feeding the homeless. If an expensive car when people are suffering is “immoral”, so’s your Broney movie and popcorn, to a lesser degree. You’re willing to accept luxury–which is excessive by the standards of say, a Rwandan kid dying of Kwashiorkor rather than spend that same money feeding someone. The only difference by the stupid-ass standards you set is that the guy with the $100,000 car is more successful at being immoral than you.
Now howsabout answering my question: Do you ever spend time/energy/money on luxuries? If so, how do you justify those “excessive” luxuries given that you could easily give them up and send the money to starving children?
Easy questions. You gonna try to dodge 'em for a fourth time?
