# Afraid of Some Truth???

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 30, 2002, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597 "2002-11-30T03:48:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/81 "2002-11-30T09:17:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TalkAboutIslam \*  
> \*\*Mr. or Miss Wikkit,
> 
> No, I myself edited my sig.
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> some modo broke the link in silence …
> 
> got it ??? \*\*

Why can’t I be Mrs. Wikkit? I’m not, but I’m curious.

My apologies for the misstatement, please let me rephrase it:

“TalkAboutIslam, your website was mentioned in your name, in your location, and in gigantic blue letters as your sig. It was quite annoying, and I’m glad the mods had you change it.”

Anyway, if a mod did in fact break the link in your sig, wouldn’t that qualify as changing it? If so, wasn’t my original sentence correct? So then, would you like to retract the statement that I am incorrect, or that the mod changed it?

good enough ???

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/82 "2002-11-30T10:09:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> \*\*In the 1950s, children will be educated at home using radio technology. \*\*

In 2003, the percent of posts **Libertarian** makes that have something to do with the thread will double.

His post-per-day average will halve.

😉

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**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/83 "2002-11-30T10:12:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TalkAboutIslam \*  
> \*\*do not hold me responsible of somebody else’s behavior … \*\*

Do you agree with the moderation of that site? I just presumed you did since you tried to spam it as much as possible.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/84 "2002-11-30T11:01:19Z")

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What proof do you have, TAI, that a mod edited the link in your sig?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/85 "2002-11-30T11:05:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by iampunha \*  
> \*\*In 2003, the percent of posts **Libertarian** makes that have something to do with the thread will double.
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> His post-per-day average will halve.
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> 😉 \*\*

Find me a thread with some sense in it, and I will contribute something sensible. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/86 "2002-11-30T11:57:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TalkAboutIslam \*  
> \*\*Mr. or Miss Wikkit,
> 
> No, I myself edited my sig.
> 
> some modo broke the link in silence …
> 
> got it ??? \*\*

When I first saw your sig, I clicked on one of the links, WHICH WAS BROKEN! Your original link was broken. So when you copied and pasted the link, it was STILL broken. No mod would have broken the link, if we had modified it at all we would have removed the link. And quite probably the colors, as well.

Got it???  
**TalkAboutIslam** , you broke your link yourself. Now, I advise you to quit whining about how unjustly persecuted you are, because you’re not. You’re just making yourself look foolish.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/87 "2002-11-30T12:24:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TalkAboutIslam \*  
> **my HALF A LINE SIG …**

… named Eric.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/88 "2002-11-30T12:34:30Z")

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You’ve got a pet sig… named Eric?

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/89 "2002-11-30T12:48:01Z")

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No, Eric the half-a-fucking-sig.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/90 "2002-11-30T12:58:39Z")

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Does Eric walk around in circles?

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/91 "2002-11-30T13:00:30Z")

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Over my head, **beagledave**.

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**Author:** ![Gomez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d78d45/32.png) [@Gomez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gomez)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/92 "2002-11-30T13:42:11Z")

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> _Originally posted by TalkAboutIslam_
> 
> it is not the form or size of my signature that was a problem, but rather the content of the site behind the link…
> 
> capito ???

Nope. Sorry to shatter your delusions of persecution but the problem _was_ just how frigging _ugly_ the link was!

Here, I’ll prove it.

[This is a link to TalkAboutIslam’s website](http://talkaboutislam.com/)

If the moderators do not delete this neat little link can we assume that your’s was removed because it was just plain fugly?

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/93 "2002-11-30T14:14:00Z")

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**TalkAboutIslam** :  
How strange it is that you should complain about the moderators of this board acting dishonestly (even though they have not) when it is so abundantly clear that your only intention is to promote another website, and have attempted to conceal the fact that this is your intention.

There are many threads in the Great Debates forum which discuss Islam, and yet you have chosen to ignore them – hence it seems that your desire to “talk about Islam” is non-existent. Instead you have chosen to post anodyne and empty remarks to several other threads, rarely contributing anything to the conversation, yet giving you the opportunity to advertise your message board through your _screen name_, your _location_ and your _signature_. As in [the Chess Question thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=146793) for instance:

> [@](#):
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> if you still have any chess related questions, please drop me a private message
> 
> \<sig=advertisement for your message board\>

You have recently edited your signature further adding a second colour, thereby making it even more conspicuous, and have added another line and a half of text complaining about the imaginary censorship of thought the moderators have performed. All this in spite of being told, frequently, that it is the _appearance_ of the signature that is causing the problem. The only other contributions you have made with your 60+ posts in three days, is to offer empty flattery to others here whom you no doubt imagine are too gullible to realise your true motivation. Example from [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=146929):

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> \*Originally posted by TalkAboutIslam \*
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> > [@](#):
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> > _Originally posted by chula_  
> > **The answer is: “laugh out out out out loud” and “laugh out out out out out out out out out loud,” respectively.**
> 
> \*\*LOLRF !!!
> 
> 😃 😃 😃 😃
> 
> you made my day Chula !!
> 
> 😃 😃 \*\*

…and to complain about the SDMB and its administrators.

If you truly had any respect for your religion you would not associate it with such behaviour. Perhaps you owe your fellow Muslims an apology just as much as you owe one to the SDMB?

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/94 "2002-11-30T14:18:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \*  
> \*\*Over my head, **beagledave**. \*\*

Do a SDMB search on “Halvsie” the 2 legged dog

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/95 "2002-11-30T14:22:02Z")

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People persecute me because I’m a Muslim Fuckwit. Before that, people persecuted me because I was Christian Fuckwit. And before that, I was a Hindu Fuckwit. I’ve tried being a Shintoist Fuckwit, an Animist Fuckwit, and a Zoorastrian Fuckwit. I also tried being an Atheist Fuckwit and an Agnostic Fuckwit.

People still call me a Fuckwit. Which religion should I join so that people won’t call me a fuckwit anymore.

I can’t believe that people are so blinded by my religion that they can’t see the real me.

What am I?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/96 "2002-11-30T14:23:56Z")

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Actually, TAI, I’m awaiting any proof that you, yourself, are actually knowledgeable about Islam.

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/97 "2002-11-30T14:38:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \*  
> \*\*People persecute me because I’m a Muslim Fuckwit. Before that, people persecuted me because I was Christian Fuckwit. And before that, I was a Hindu Fuckwit. I’ve tried being a Shintoist Fuckwit, an Animist Fuckwit, and a Zoorastrian Fuckwit. I also tried being an Atheist Fuckwit and an Agnostic Fuckwit.
> 
> People still call me a Fuckwit. Which religion should I join so that people won’t call me a fuckwit anymore.
> 
> I can’t believe that people are so blinded by my religion that they can’t see the real me.
> 
> What am I? \*\*

Now that _is_ funny. No smiley needed.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/98 "2002-11-30T15:00:27Z")

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Yo, TAI, let’s talk a tad about Islam. Do you recognize this?

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> Say: “Have you any knowledge (proof) that you can produce before us? Verily, you follow nothing but guess and you do nothing but lie.”

Last I checked, that was in the Noble Qur’an (Sur 6, verse 148). What it means, IMHO, is that before you accuse someone of doing something, make sure you have actual proof and not just your guess that something happened. The longer you maintain you’re being persecuted here for something that you guessed wrong about, the more you prove “you do nothing but lie” and that will certainly detract from anything that you might say here in the future about Islam.

Do you get it now?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/99 "2002-11-30T15:20:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Doghouse Reilly \*  
> \*\*(Who gets the reference?) \*\*

(waving hand frantically in the air)

Ooooooh…pick ME! Pick ME!!!

THE CAINE MUTINY! (or the Wouk novel, THE CAINE MUTINY COURT-MARTIAL!) I LOVE that flick!

“Will you look at the man? He’s a Freudian delight; he crawls with clues!” – Fred MacMurray

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afraid-of-some-truth/139597/100 "2002-11-30T15:35:31Z")

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\*\* TalkAboutIslam\*\*,  
I refuse to give you the fight that I think you so desperately want. You appear to be angry and perhaps for good reason. I don’t know. So I will ask you two questions:

1. How do you respond to **Chula’s** link from your board that was edited to 'reflect religious and social truths?" This doesn’t seem in the spirit of free speech and thought.

2. How do you respond to the fact that people were so interested in learning about Islam from **Muslim Guy** that a second thread had to be made?

If you approach people with an antagonistic attitude you will get one in return. We’re all human. I saw your sig and thought it was intrusive myself but I could deal with it.

I think the board would be more than happy to “start over” if you are willing.

Ok, back to pitting.

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