# Afroman punches woman on stage **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 18, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034 "2015-02-18T20:44:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/201 "2015-02-21T14:38:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > “Pasty-skinned” doesn’t have the incredibly ugly history that words like “darkie” and “nappy” have, in addition to the ugly history of using language to denigrate black people in general. It’s not just because those words reference skin color and hair in a negative way – it’s that they continue a long history of denigrating black people with language, even if it’s in a very small-seeming way. > > Not a huge deal, but I think the right thing to do is try to avoid contributing to that history. While I mostly agree with the pizza guy, I’m with you on this. It’s like saying that honkey is as derogatory a term as nigger. Both reference skin color, but the ladder has a dark, violent, intolerable history associated with it that the former term lacks. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/202 "2015-02-21T15:06:16Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > for the outright racist things he says about race in race realist threads (like how he _knows_ people are Black because of their hair texture… That’s not a racist claim, not even slightly. For it to be racist, there’d have to be a judgement that a person with a particular hair texture is inferior to others. You truly don’t know what racism is. You both see racism that isn’t there from others, and are blind to your own. There’s something deeply wrong with you. Get help. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/203 "2015-02-21T15:39:12Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > That’s not a racist claim, not even slightly. For it to be racist, there’d have to be a judgement that a person with a particular hair texture is inferior to others. > > You truly don’t know what racism is. You both see racism that isn’t there from others, and are blind to your own. There’s something deeply wrong with you. Get help. I will have to agree with **MrDibble** , I already had plenty of experience with the posters that he is pointing at, In the past I have noticed them relying on racist sources like VDARE (they got better as soon they noticed that it was indeed not a good idea to mention where they are coming from) but the main reason why I do not give then much of a break is that when scientific racists come to the discussions the poster mentioned by **MrDibble** is all over supporting them and not criticizing the misrepresentations of the scientific racists. Having said that, I think this item of the nappy hair would had been ok just to go “tisk tisk tisk”. I can see the point that for others not experienced on the exuberant prejudice of the ones mentioned by **MrDibble** that the item in this thread alone can be plausible attributed to plain ignorance, but the point here is that I do not see this item coming from a vacuum, there is a lot of precedent to think that those posters are not just plain ignorants, but willful ones. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/204 "2015-02-21T16:04:10Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > That’s not a racist claim, not even slightly. For it to be racist, there’d have to be a judgement that a person with a particular hair texture is inferior to others. You have your definition of racism, the rest of us have ours. This is like homophobia having fuck all to do with fear, son. > [@](#): > > You truly don’t know what racism is. The **fuck** , I don’t. I don’t want to play the oppression card, but I doubt there’s more than a handful of people on this board who’ve known true, deep racism, in any degree, like I have. Hands up, anyone else who has the physical scars from racist whippings… > [@](#): > > Get help. Get bent. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/205 "2015-02-21T16:05:59Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > …but the ladder has a dark, violent, intolerable history associated with it… The stepstool is similarly demonic, I hear. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/206 "2015-02-21T16:18:35Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Gosh, Mister! I had no idea there was any other meaning to the word. > > Mighty white of you to explain it to me. No problem. I’m here to help. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Figures you’d have a nostalgia for the most whitebread era of TV…_gag_"used" it, past tense. OMG, I have nostalgia for the TV shows I grew up with. :eek: But I’m not surprised to see that whiteness makes you gag. And you’re calling other people racist. That’s some funny shit right there. KnowIsayin? Bwaha. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Miller doesn’t know you like I do, **maggie**. Actually, I think he does, as I’ve been in many, many debates with him over many years. But he wasn’t even commenting on me. He was commenting on reality, which he also better acquainted with than you. “Golly” really has no racial component when used in the U.S. Really. It’s that reality thing again. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Aw, shucks, yes, please, someone Yanksplain things for me.:rolleyes: Sorry I didn’t use smaller words. Others have tried. But you’ll just have none of this learnin’, will you Dribbles? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/207 "2015-02-21T16:21:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You mean, not even where I was requested to fan the Klansman like a combination plantation/Egyptian slave? It wasn’t a _request_. 🙂 > [@MrDibble](#): > > See, when you echo the local racists’ favourite talking point verbatim in your very first paragraph, I’m not inclined to believe you at all. You’re once again confusing racist talking points with reality talking pints. Do try to keep them straight. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/208 "2015-02-21T16:23:31Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The stepstool is similarly demonic, I hear. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/209 "2015-02-21T16:25:59Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > No problem. I’m here to help. Gee, I hope it’s not too much of a burden… > [@](#): > > OMG, I have nostalgia for the TV shows I grew up with. OK, I think I understand a bit better now - you’re old and senile. > [@](#): > > But I’m not surprised to see that whiteness makes you gag. White bread makes me gag. So would swallowing a pint of whitewash. > [@](#): > > KnowIsayin? I don’t understand, are you trying to mock AAVE or something? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/210 "2015-02-21T16:29:08Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > That’s because it _is_ true. Racial is racist. And here’s where you lose the reality crowd again. Especially that you evidently think that if you repeating it it will increase in truthiness. Nope. You just increase in stupidity. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Especially the way **maggie** uses it.I never claimed impartiality. I’m partial to a board where I don’t have to read racist threads that insult me and my entire continent. Your continent is so fat that other continents use it as a bean bag. Oh, SNAP! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/211 "2015-02-21T16:30:54Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > It wasn’t a _request_. Then don’t phrase it as one with your effete 'perhaps you could". > [@](#): > > You’re once again confusing racist talking points with reality talking pints. Someone’s confused, clearly. Possibly one too many pints. > [@](#): > > Do try to keep them straight. That’s homophobic. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/212 "2015-02-21T16:31:12Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > While I mostly agree with the pizza guy, I’m with you on this. It’s like saying that honkey is as derogatory a term as nigger. Both reference skin color, but the ladder has a dark, violent, intolerable history associated with it that the former term lacks. I agree with that, as well. I think it’s difficult that that is _not_ the case. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/213 "2015-02-21T16:32:24Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Especially that you evidently think that if you repeating it it will increase in truthiness. Use proper English words, man. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/214 "2015-02-21T16:39:51Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > That’s homophobic. Reflect on this. If it weren’t a joke it would be stupid, right. Well, you’re claims of racism are exactly the same. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/215 "2015-02-21T16:41:08Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Reflect on this. If it weren’t a joke it would be stupid, right. Right > [@](#): > > Well, you’re claims of racism are exactly the same. This would be true if you weren’t already known to be a racist. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/216 "2015-02-21T16:44:00Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > RightThis would be true if you weren’t already known to be a racist. You’re still confusing the noises in your head with that complete other thing: reality. Do try to get the help you need. Seriously. You’re fucking demented. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/217 "2015-02-21T16:47:10Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You’re still confusing the noises in your head with that complete other thing: reality. Reality is that there’s just one biological human race. But that’s a reality you actively deny. > [@](#): > > Do try to get the help you need. Wait, I thought it was that “Dribble” guy who needed the help… > [@](#): > > Seriously. You’re fucking demented. No, you’re definitely a racist. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/218 "2015-02-21T16:56:16Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > He’s racist, amongst other things, for the outright racist things he says about race in race realist threads (like how he _knows_ people are Black because of their hair texture Ha. More bullshit from you. Now get your dumb ass back to that thread and find where I said I “know” people are black due to their hair texture. Didn’t happen. What I did claim—and stand by 1,000%—is that if you and I went down to the subway in NYC and you were to give me $10 for every person I could point to and correctly identify as being Black, and I’d give you $20 for every time I’m wrong, I’d be one rich dude. As long as you had the funds are the to pay your debts and not renege on the deal, I’d be able to buy an expansive plantation in no time. So, try to restrict your stupidity to just being wrong. Adding the lying thing is just unseemly. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/219 "2015-02-21T16:59:08Z")
Dribbles, my man! It’s been fun. Gotta run now. Work to do. Gotta go walk the fields and keep an eye on things.😉 Enjoy the day on your fat-ass continent. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034/220 "2015-02-21T17:22:26Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > .The **fuck** , I don’t. > I don’t want to play the oppression card, but I doubt there’s more than a handful of people on this board who’ve known true, deep racism, in any degree, like I have. > > Hands up, anyone else who has the physical scars from racist whippings… I’m aware of your background, and aware that terrible things were done to you. But unfortunately (if perhaps understandably) they have left you hypersensitive to things that even hint of racism _to you_ that are not meant that way, by people who are not, in fact, racist. If you were to ask friends to be extra careful around your triggers, that’s fine, but the rest of the world does not owe you that. You need to accept that, and you almost certainly need real help to do so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/afroman-punches-woman-on-stage/713034.md?page=12)